Baby Naming Issue: Finding and/or Inventing Cross-Cultural Baby Names

A. writes:

My husband and I are having a boy this year and are having trouble coming up with a name that will fit. My husband is Vietnamese/Chinese, adopted by a white family, last name rhymes with Quaker. I am Scottish, Irish and Scandinavian. We want our son to have a name that reflects both sides of his heritage and is unique, without putting him in a box. We want to use the middle name Lee or Li, but haven’t been able to find a first name that speaks to both of us. We have already looked at numerous baby name books and what seems like hundreds of websites, and we keep finding the same European names, and a relatively small number of Chinese and Vietnamese names, most of which, while we think they are beautiful names to use if you speak the language, we don’t think would translate well in public school in the US – we don’t want the Sixteen Candles Long Duc Dong syndrome. Any ideas about finding or inventing cross-cultural names?

I wonder if it would work to find a Scottish/Irish/Scandinavian name that by coincidence includes a Vietnamese/Chinese name? For example, Declan is Irish, but the first two letters are the Chinese/Vietnamese name De, which The Best Baby Names in the World From Around the World says means virtue in China, and Baby Names World says means royalty in Vietnam. Or Camden is Celtic, but contains the Vietnamese name Cam (as well as the De already mentioned), which Baby Names World says means orange in Vietnam. But…finding even just two names that worked that way took a lot of flipping back and forth between the sections of the book, and it’s a bit of a reach: I don’t think anyone looking at it would think of it as reflecting both sides of his heritage.

Or you could flat-out invent a name, by using a Chinese or Vietnamese name with a typical name-segment from Irish/Scottish/Scandinavian names. But again, I’m not sure anyone would look at such a name and realize it reflected two heritages.

Another option would be to give him a double first name, hyphenated or not. Li Declan, for example, certainly reflects both sides at once, as would Camden Hao or Erik-Ji.

Or you could choose one heritage for the first name and another for the middle name, and swap that order for the next child.

Or you might conclude that although you’d like his name to reflect both sides of his heritage, that might not work with the style of names you like. In which case there are fortunately many other ways to include both heritages in his life, and perhaps the new goal could be to choose a name that reflects neither heritage specifically.

I’m going to turn this over to the commenters to see if they have any other ideas or advice for representing both sides of the family tree in a name.

Baby Boy Kaltenbach, Brother to Jude Aaron

Erika writes:

We are due with our second boy in less than 6 weeks and need naming help. I’ve been following your blog my entire pregnancy and love hearing your suggestions and thoughts on baby naming. My husband’s name is Aaron and mine is Erika. Our last name is Kaltenbach. Our son’s name is Jude Aaron and I love so many things about his name. We are looking for something similar with our second boy. A shorter name since our last name is such a mouthful. Something not to popular but also not strange sounding. I have also shied away from first names with a strong K sound b/c of our last name. Middle name is flexible for us. Here is a glance at what we have plodded through so far:

Leo: my favorite – my husband doesn’t like the associations paired with it
Luke: we both like it but it feels to common particularly when you throw lucas in the mix but a definite front runner at this point
Holden: both like, something just feels off about it
Ty: hubby likes, I like but not my favorite
Cy: we both really like but have good friends with a Silas that they call Si

We are stuck in indecisive land and need your help! This will be our last child. Please help us find a name for our baby boy.

 
Because you like Leo and Ty/Cy, I suggest Milo or Levi or Eli:

Milo Kaltenbach; Jude and Milo.
Levi Kaltenbach; Jude and Levi.
Eli Kaltenbach; Jude and Eli.

If Holden is not quite right, do you like Landon or Hudson?

Dane would go beautifully with Jude, without over-coordinating. Dane Kaltenbach; Jude and Dane.

I might like Dean even more. Dean Kaltenbach; Jude and Dean.

Finn is another good short one. Finn Kaltenbach; Jude and Finn.

Reid is one of my favorite short boy names. Reid Kaltenbach; Jude and Reid.

Or Ian is on my own list. Ian Kaltenbach; Jude and Ian.

Ooo, or Gage. Gage Kaltenbach; Jude and Gage.

If it works with the first name, I like the idea of using Erik as the middle name, after you, since your first son’s middle name is after your husband. My favorite is Milo Erik Kaltenbach.

Luke would also be a good middle name possibility, if it feels too common to be the first name. I like Ian Luke Kaltenbach.

 

 

Name update! Erika writes:

An update from the Kaltenbach crew. Our second boy joined us 10 days early and we were so thrilled to have him join our family! We had decided on his name a few days before I went into labor and it was so wonderful to look at his face and know his name was Luke Josiah (grandfather’s name). He is a calm, steady baby and his name is a perfect fit! Thanks swistle, what a wonderful site you have to help parents decide on a name for their little one.

Baby Boy Hand, Brother to Kira

Karianne writes:

I first learned of your site when my friend Jen “Baby Boy _er, brother to Sisters Tatum and Campbell” wrote into you. I have read through pretty much every single post and like lots of your suggestions, so figured we’d see what your thought would be for us!

I have a long first name, Karianne, which I DO NOT shorten or allow for nicknames, Hubs however goes by his shortened name, Terry and NEVER goes by his full first name, Terence. Our last name rhymes with Hand, so as it is our two names together are very ring rhyme – Karianne and Terry Hand/Terry and Karianne Hand.

When we were due to have our first child we chose to not learn the gender, and had names selected for both boy and girl. Our daughter was born and named Kira. Our boy name was Elliot, with the potential to be called Eli, Leo, or Elliot. I am now due to have a Baby Boy in early May. And am no longer sold on Elliot, not totally opposed either.

A couple of things I will share….our last name rhymes with Hand, however contains a Hard R sound, therefore first names beginning with R are out. Also out are 1st names beginning with K. Since both myself and our daughter’s names begin with K we do not want to go down that road. I am not a fan of the top names of the past couple years, many are lovely names, but I really don’t want my kids growing up with multiple friends/peers of the same name. Nor do I favor odd, one off names. So now that that is nice and clear…

Some of the names currently on my list, and I say my list because my husband has yet to contribute even a suggestion. Silas, Benjamin, Gage, Evan, Elliot, Hale, Bennett, Tanner, Fisher. Names that have come off are Jacob/Jakob, Neil, Samuel, Lance, Colin. Our daughter calls the baby Jack. She is pretty adamant that this is his name. It very well may end being his name if we can’t figure one out on our own!

I am also interested in your thoughts on middle name. My father in law who I adored beyond belief passed away in 2001 and I have wanted our baby boy to carry his name, Alan, as his middle name from day one, however my brother in law, and husband’s only sibling recently passed away unexpectedly and I feel torn about leaving his name, Stephen, out (we will not be having more children). So while creating the above list I only thought about Alan as the middle name, and just don’t feel Stephen fits well at all. I have considered looking for a combo of both…Stalan, Stefan, Alaster….but my gut keeps going to Alan.

Any suggestions you could provide would be greatly appreciated. I know we still have a little time here, but each passing day shortens our window to agree on his name. Thanks in advance!

I immediately seize on the sister-suggestion of Jack as an opportunity to plug the name John: it feels common, and yet it’s hard to even find a child named John. He’d likely be the only one in his class, and he could go by John or Jack. John (H)and sounds handsome and distinguished, professional but in an “equally good for an artist or an executive” way.

The main point against it is that I’m with you on Alan, and if I’m correctly guessing your surname, the initials JAR are not ideal. They’re not awful either, however, and since you have a second possible honor name, may I give you a second plug in a row, this one for double middle names? My kids have them, and it has been less hassle and more satisfaction than I’d expected. John Alan Stephen (H)and; Kira and John. (I even like the way each child has a 4-letter name.) It would niggle at me very slightly that your daughter didn’t also have two middle names, but I think it’s such an understandable situation, and getting to use both important honor names would more than outweigh that issue for me.

Because you and your daughter have K-names, and in fact her name is spelled with the first four letters of your name, the mathematical part of my mind would love to find a T-name for your son (and wouldn’t it be fun if it could be spelled with letters from your husband’s name? but let’s not get carried away). So if you don’t mind the initials spelling TAR, or if you wanted to use both middle names and have TASR, Tanner from your list stands out. But I don’t like the way the R-ending merges with the R-surname. Other possibilities:

Theo
Thompson
Tobin
Truman
Tyson

But Elliot is on my own list of favorites, so I also feel the urge to push you to use that. Kira and Elliot! So nice. And I love it with your surname. One problem is that with the middle name Alan, the initials spell EAR. Not a deal-breaker, but I usually avoid spelling things with initials if possible, or at least I want to think about it ahead of time.

You could also go straight to Leo as a stand-alone name. It works well with Alan; I love it with your surname; I love it with Kira.

A name similar to Elliot is Everett. I like the way it ties in with the R of your surname and of Kira’s name.

 

 

Name update! Karianne writes:

Hi Swistle!  First a huge thank you to you and your readers/commenters for your thoughts and feedback on our baby boy’s name.  You gave us a lot to consider, especially the double middle name.

Our son arrived 10 days late on May 19.  Once he decided to make his entrance he came quickly (less than 2 hrs from arrival at the hospital he was delivered)!

Prior to his arrival we decided on Silas Alan as his name.  After his birth we toy’ed with the idea of adding Stephen (Silas Alan Stephen/ Silas Stephen Alan) but in the end my husband made the decision to stick with our original name plan.

Again thank you for your thoughts and helping us lock in on his forever name.

Here is a picture of Silas at 11 days old.
Silas

Baby Boy Doorahzio: Italian Names

Carly writes:

We are due with our first baby, a boy, in April and my husband and I are having trouble finding a name.

To give some background information, I’m Irish and my husband is Italian, 1st generation. I’ve always been a fan of ethnic names so I’d like to find something Italian to match our very Italian last name pronounced door-ahz-io.

We were all set with girls name options (Luciana, Viviana, Valentina) with middle name Willa in honor of my lost little brother Ryan William. Our middle name for our son will be Ryan, even though it doesn’t “match” with any of the Italian-ness going on.

Our names are Matthew and Carly and we have two dogs, Sugar and Gus, and a cat, Jasper. We do hope to have more children in the future.

After going through some extensive exercises of writing top 5 lists and comparing and then comparing some more, we’ve each narrowed our favorites down to 1. (Well I have 2, whoops!)

· My husbands favorite is Marcello (pronounced mar-chel-lo), and while I don’t hate it, I also don’t love it. We’ve discussed nicknames and none stand out to me as a good fit. Marc, Marco, Marcus, March, Cello, Lo?

· My favorite is Santino and we would call him Santi or Santos. (My runner up is Xavier, it’s been on my list since I was in grade school, but the hubbie thinks it’s “weird”?)

Anyway, can you give some insight on what you think of these two names, or perhaps some other names that might seem to fit?

Thank you so much!
Carly

PS: Here is a small list of names that one of us liked but was dismissed

Theo
Dominic (most likely still on the list, but not at the top)
Milo
Sebastian
Vincenzo
Mason
Lucas
Dante
Elias
Damian
Cruz

PPS: I absolutely promise to write back with an update on what we’ve chosen!

I know very little about Italian names, so I’m working here with the Italian sections of The Baby Name Wizard, The Best Baby Names in the World From Around the World, and The Oxford Dictionary of First Names. I’m trying to choose names that will sound good in the U.S., which could very well mean I’m choosing the names that in actual Italy would sound like Erwin and Dudley.

I have a long-running campaign to promote the name Karl, which I think is vastly underused. Recently a celebrity named a baby boy Carlo, which seemed like it had potential for helping to bring the name into use: the popular o-ending! Plus, while still being definitely Italian, it’s recognized and easy to spell and pronounce. So that is my first suggestion: Carlo Ryan Doorahzio. It might be too close to Carly, or it might be a nice way to combine names: the father’s surname and an Italian first name—but one that reflects the mother’s name.

Matteo has been rising in popularity, perhaps also because of that o-ending. It gives the nicknames Matt and also Teo (TAY-o). As pointed out in the comments section, this might be too close to the name Matthew—or it might be a nice namesake name without being a junior, especially if he goes mostly by Teo.

Or Nico would be nice. Nico Ryan Doorahzio.

I’m also drawn to the Gian- names. I think those sound handsome. I like Giancarlo even more than Carlo. Gianluca would give him the nicknames Luca and Luke.

I like nicknames like Kip and Chip and Skip, so Cipriano appeals to me. On Forvo it sounds like a cross between a “sip” sound and a “chip” sound, and I think I’d use Chip as a nickname for anyone who had trouble with the full name.

Gus is a nickname trying to join Max and Sam and Jack; the main thing holding it back is the difficulty of choosing a longer version. Because you’re specifically looking for an Italian name (and it sounds like you’d like a nickname), I suggest Augusto, nickname Gus. [It’s pointed out in the comments section that Gus is already the dog’s name. I’ll leave this suggestion here anyway, for future reference for parents looking for Italian names.]

Name update! Carly writes:

We were so undecided that it took us until the last possible moment before checking out of the hospital to pick a name, but we ended up with….

Xavier Ryan D’Orazio

Thanks for chosing my question to post and thank you to all of the commentors.  I now have a list for our next child with all kinds of notes on it!

Baby Boy Smith, Brother to Carson Michael

S. writes:

I am due on March 24, so I have less than 10 weeks left. We currently have a two year old named Carson Michael. We are having another boy. Last name is Smith. I cannot for the life of me choose a name for this baby. I want a family name somewhere in the name, so Jackson, Jordan, Owen, and Britt are possibilities.

Now to talk about what we have considered. Actually at this point I don’t think there is a name that I haven’t considered.

My favorite names are Jackson, Hudson, and Silas. Jackson and Hudson don’t work because they end in -son like my first son’s name. Silas ends how my last name begins, and is too hissy sounding with all the s’s.

My husbands favorite name is Levi. It just doesn’t click with me. It feels very religious to me.

We have seriously considered a number of names in addition to the ones above, but I find something wrong with each. Here goes:

Jordan- worried about the unisex aspect, too many girls using it now?
Brady- my family names don’t go with it for the middle (I refuse to give him the initials BJ)
Owen-too old sounding it was a great grandparents name, so I picture a 95 year old
Brody-same issue as Brady
Trevor-people say it sound “snobby” and pretentious
Noah- No, Noah sounds like a stutter and we are afraid our two year old will be confused with all the “No” sounds
Parker-i never liked it until recently, but I think the strong R sounds makes it hard to say especially with Carson

Husband had vetoed:
Ryan
Kyle
Connor
Tanner
Grant

Please tell me you will help!!!! I honestly have been crying for the last two days every time I try to settle on something. I hate this! I find something wrong with every name. I feel alot of pressure especially since my first son was born a month early! I may not have much time left!!

I don’t think the “No” sound in Noah is going to be confusing to your older child, any more than it will confuse your second child that his older brother’s name has the words “car” and “son” in it. If it really did turn out to be an issue, it wouldn’t be an issue for very long. And if I think back to the Noah I had in my daycare class, I don’t remember the no-no issue being a problem at all: the pause for the comma, and the W-sound in the middle of Noah, keep it from sounding stuttery. Perhaps some parents of Noahs can weigh in on whether this has been a problem for them.

A name with some similar sounds (but no “no”) is Rohan. Rohan Smith; Carson and Rohan.

I might in general prefer to avoid having two sibling names ending with -son, but there’s no rule against it. If you and your husband can agree on the name Jackson or Hudson, and you both love the name, there is nothing wrong with naming two brothers Carson and Jackson, or Carson and Hudson.

I can see how having an elderly relative named Owen would affect the sound of the name for you. Does it help at all that it’s in the top 50 for boys right now? As with many names, it has cycled around again: names first sound too elderly to use, then sound vintage and appealing, then sound totally current. Owen is already sounding current, with only a hint of vintage remaining. It fits in beautifully with other revived no-longer-elderly-sounding names such as Ava, Henry, and Emma.

I like the sound of Carson and Parker together. I think the R sound ties them together. Maybe it ties them together a little too well, since it’s more of a matching ar-sound than just an r-sound. Maybe Porter would be better? Porter Smith; Carson and Porter.

Jordan is one of the few truly unisex names. Even though it’s used for many baby girls, it hasn’t dropped at all out of the running for boys—especially since many girls use feminized spellings such as Jordyn and Jordynn.

Another good unisex name is Riley. It has the il-sound from Silas, but without the s-ending problem. Riley Smith; Carson and Riley.

If you like Silas but the ending S is a problem, do you like Simon instead?

If not Levi, would you prefer Leo?

If Trevor isn’t quite right, would Truman do? Or Everett? Or Evan?

If you like Brady but the initials are a problem, do you like Grady instead? Grady Owen Smith; Carson and Grady.

Baby Boy Detwiler: Issues of Twilight and Beer

Katie writes:

I am a longtime reader and thought I would be more than prepared for my own baby name experience once it arrived. Well, here it is… I am due on March 30th with a baby boy and i am anything BUT well prepared! I have 3 different issues going on; not wanting a top ten name, Twilight, and initials I don’t know if I can use. To give you some background, my name is Katie, my husband’s name is Jon, and our last name is Detwiler. I grew up in Amish Country, and we have an Amish sounding last name, so that’s a factor for me as well, so I guess that’s a fourth issue for me! I would like to avoid some of the typical Amish names. Jon has given me 2 top five lists, “Unusual Names” (that I don’t think are actually that unusual) and “Normal Names.”

Unusual Names:

Aksel
Soren
Maximus
Zander
Riddick

Normal Names:

Jakeb (yes, that’s with an -eb at the end… Not going to happen)
Mason
Evan
Zeke
Finn

I seem to be having some mental block and can’t even think of any names I think I like or are right for this poor little man, so we settled on Jakob Soren or Maximus Grey as our top two finalists.

These two finalists have produced all 4 of my issues. Jakob/Jacob is Jon’s #1 name out of all 10… It has been in the top five names for what seems like a hundred years, it’s Amish, and my sister in law is due a month before me and their girl name is Bella. Really. Maximus Grey gives us the initials MGD. I think we might have been ok a few years ago with these initials but then out came MGD 64… Does that even matter?

So I need to know if I should just get over any of these issues, or if you think any of them are actually legit. My pick is definitely Max, but those initials are bothering me. Also, if we were having a girl, we both like Ellie, but Jon preferred Eleanor and I preferred Eloise for her full name.

If you take a look at our style and have any new name suggestions as well, we’re still definitely open to a change! Thank you!

 
I had to Google MGD 64 to see what the issue was. But I’m not a beer-drinker; if you were considering the name Smirnoff or even GNT I would have known what was what. And Jacob Detwiler wouldn’t have made me think Amish.

But I think it can be tempting to dismiss anything as silly if it’s not a familiar association: I haven’t seen Titanic so Jack and Rose seems like a dismissible thing to worry about—but ask me about siblings Max and Ruby and I’m completely opposed: the associations I recognize seem shocking, while the associations someone ELSE recognizes seem barely worth considering—only because they’re not important TO ME, which is not the question when we’re talking about the societal impact of a name. With the polls I always want to separate out the opinions of the people who HAVE the association from the people who don’t. Let’s have a poll over to the right and see if we can do that even though it makes the response options kind of LONG.

It seems too that the MGD issue would be a simple problem to fix, unless you’re totally set on Grey as the only middle name you want to consider. Even if you think the initials are a deal-breaker, that doesn’t rule out the name Max.

While I might not name siblings Edward and Bella, I don’t see a problem with Jacob and Bella for cousins. The name Bella is fairly strongly associated with Twilight (though all the Bellas, as well as all the Isabellas going by Bella, help to reduce that), but Jacob is common enough to have an even more diluted set of associations. And Bella and Jacob don’t end up together romantically, right? So it’s not a connection that would bother me. But again, we have the personal associations factoring in: I skimmed the first Twilight book and that’s it, so of course the association would seem insignificant to me. What we want is SOCIETY’S reaction. Let’s have a second poll over to the right about this issue.

Between Jacob and Maximum, my own favorite is Jacob. Jacob Detwiler seems like a nice boy, and handsome. And J.D. makes a cute initial nickname, if you want it.

From the entire list, my favorite is Soren Jacob. It lets your husband have his favorite name but without the Jacob/Bella issue, the Top Ten issue, or the Amish Name issue.

We recently discussed Maxon/Maxton, if you’d want to consider a different long form for Max.

Because you have Zander and Zeke, I wonder if you would like Xavier?

Evan from your list makes me think of Ian. But it gives the initials I.D., if you want to avoid that. (A D-surname sure is hard to work with for those of us who prefer not to spell anything with initials! 2012 A.D., CD, double-D, ED, fire dept, g-d, high definition, show your I.D., M.D., O.D., police dept, Rd., etc.)

Be sure to vote in both polls to the right (er, I mean if you WANT to); it’s common when we do two polls for the first of the two polls to get significantly more votes than the second. Heck, let’s throw in one more poll: Jacob or Maximus? And be sure to leave other suggestions in the comments section. [All three polls closed; see results below.]

Poll results for “The Initials MGD” (479 votes total):

  • I recognize the association, and it’s a deal-breaker – 24 votes (5%)
  • I recognize the association, but I think it’s no big deal – 198 votes (41%)
  • I didn’t recognize the association but now I think it’s a deal-breaker – 6 votes (1%)
  • I didn’t recognize the association but I don’t think it’s a big deal – 234 votes (49%)
  • OMG I cannot even figure out these options – 17 votes (4%)

Poll results for “Is it okay to have cousins named Jacob and Bella?” (507 votes total):

  • I thought of Twilight, and I’d really avoid it – 55 votes (11%)
  • I thought of Twilight, but it’s still totally fine for just cousins – 185 votes (36%)
  • I didn’t think of Twilight, and now that I have, I’d avoid it – 19 votes (4%)
  • I didn’t think of Twilight, and now that I have, I still don’t think it’s a big deal – 242 votes (48%)
  • I am now too confused to vote – 6 votes (1%)

Poll results for “Which do you prefer?” (444 votes total):

  • Jacob Detwiler – 302 votes (68%)
  • Maximus Detwiler – 142 votes (31%)

 

 

Name update! Katie writes:

Baby Boy Detwiler was born March 30, 2012 (a month after his cousin Isabella!). After all the polls and comments generated from your post we thought we should go with Jacob… But after really hashing it out we decided that Maximus Grey was meant to be, and the initials weren’t a big deal at all.  So here he is, Maximus Grey Detwiler :)

Maximus2

Baby Name to Consider: Maxon

Beth writes:

As I was driving to my daughter’s class today, a sign I drive by often caught my attention as a name to consider. Maxon. I’ve never heard of a baby named this, but it sounds like so many popular names–Max! Jackson! Mason! that I wondered if someone who didn’t have this name in their family tree would consider it. What do you think?

Oh, interesting! It adds another way to get the nickname Max, and it ties in with the name Jaxon. Or it could be spelled Mackson, if someone preferred the nickname Mac/Mack.

I see in 2010 there were 55 baby boys named Maxon, plus another 14 named Maxen, 9 named Maxxon, and 7 named Maxin. It looks like it appeared in the Social Security database in 1997, but hasn’t really caught on yet.

I wonder why it HASN’T risen more rapidly, considering it fits so well with Max and Jaxon and Jackson? The similarity in sound to the men’s magazine Maxim might help it or might hurt it (312 boys named Maxim were born in 2010). Associations with maxi pads seem like they’d be damaging, but then they should be equally damaging to all the Max names. It makes me think of “Wax on, wax off” from The Karate Kid—but that ought to be just as damaging to Jaxon and Jackson. I wondered if it might be a reluctance to branch out into rhyming names, but that didn’t stop Caden/Braden/Jaden/Greydon.

Let’s have a poll over to the right to see what we think of the name [poll closed; see results below], but let’s also discuss in the comments section why we think it HASN’T taken off.

Poll results for “What do you think of the name Maxon?” (491 votes total):

I love it! I’d want to use it! – 5 votes (1%)
I like it! I’d want to consider it! – 26 votes (5%)
I like it for someone else’s baby – 72 votes (15%)
No particular opinion – 41 votes (8%)
Slight dislike – 193 votes (39%)
Strong dislike – 154 votes (31%)

Harris or Harrison Hamilton?

L. writes:

We are expecting our first baby, a surprise, February 22, 2012. My husband was very close to his grandfather, Harry, and my last name is Harris, so we think something in that vein would be meaningful. We have decided on Harriet for a girl, and both love it. (Her middle name would be Perrine, my mother’s maiden name.) For a boy we had settled on Harrison, nickname Harry, but I am having doubts. (His middle name would be Matthew, after my husband.) Here are some concerns:

The baby’s last name will be Hamilton, my husband’s last name. I worry that Harrison Hamilton is too singsongy, and the two last names are too interchangeable (sounds very similar to Hamilton Harrison). My husband points out that Harry Hamilton, what our son will go by, doesn’t come off that way (although he is a bit worried about the alliteration).

I am also worried that, although the name isn’t overly popular at the moment (consistently in the 200s in the Social Security database for the last couple of decades), the -son ending for boys is pretty trendy right now (Jackson, Mason, Grayson, Hudson, etc.) and Harrison has recently become very popular in Australia and England, which might suggest it’s about to catch on here in the U.S. Because my husband and I both went through school sharing our names with lots of classmates, we’re hoping to avoid putting our kid in the same situation.

I do think it’s a solid, sweet name with lots of significance for our family. It would be cute on a little boy and respectable on a man. And as an Indiana Jones/Beatles fan, my husband is happy with those associations.

The alternative is Harris, which doesn’t end with -son and isn’t even in the top 1000, popularity-wise. It also seems to flow better with Hamilton. But it is my last name–is that weird?–and my husband likes it less, although he is open to it. It also sounds less “name-y” in this day and age than Harrison.

Your advice would be appreciated!

 
I vastly prefer Harris Hamilton to Harrison Hamilton, for all the reasons you mention. Furthermore, I have a huge soft spot for the mother’s maiden name (whether or not the mother is still using it) used as a child’s name: I think it’s a meaningful and touching choice, especially when the child will be receiving his father’s first name as his middle name, as well as his father’s surname.

Or there’s the option of just naming him Harry. It’s not so nicknamey that it can’t stand on its own. This is particularly appealing if your husband’s grandfather’s given name was Harry.

Let’s have a poll over to the right, to see what everyone else thinks. [Poll closed; see results below.]

Hamilton

 

Name update! L. writes:

Thank you to everyone for your input!  In the end, all the stress was for naught:  Harriet Perrine Hamilton was born on February 15, 2012.  (She’ll be 8 months old in a few days–here is a recent pic.)  She has the perfect name for her.  In the end we decided on Harrison for a boy, but I was never completely at peace with it.  So everything worked out!
Harriet

Baby Girl or Boy Spam, Sibling to Bianca

Monica writes:

I am due with our second child at the beginning of February. We do not know what we are having, and cannot come up with a boy’s name. We have a 2 yr old daughter named Bianca Jolien. We call her ‘B’ or Bia. If the baby is a girl, she will be Daphne (unsure of middle name). We could easily agree on a girl’s name; however, we are having difficulty coming up with a boy’s name. It may be because I have too many ‘rules’. I don’t want the name to start with a ‘M’ as my husband is Martin and I am Monica, I want the name to be more than one syllable as our last name is one syllable (sounds like ‘Spam’), and I don’t want a trendy or overly common name, but also not a name that is too unheard of. Every name I come up with, my husband says it in Dutch, and it does not work. Having said that, I don’t want an exclusively Dutch name (like Jaap or Cees)! Like I said, I have lots of ‘rules’!

A commonly used boy’s name in Holland right now is Lucas, which I like, and especially like the nn Luke. I’m not sure though because it ends with ‘S’ and our last name starts with ‘S’. What are your thoughts? Yes, generally we will use Luke, but officially it will be Lucas ‘Spam’. I’m afraid it sounds too much like Luca ‘Spam’ when spoken. I don’t want to simply name him Luke as I’d like him to have the option of using Lucas when he is older.

Names we have considered, but aren’t convinced:

Kiefer – Husband likes, I used to like it too, but now feel it is too ‘different’.

Willem – Dutch form of William. I like the nn Will, but worry about how common this will be, and really dislike the nn Willy.

Wilco – same as above, it is a commonly used name in Holland, but worry it is too different.

Graydon – like the nn Grady, not crazy about Graydon

Henry – don’t like the nn Hank, and hubby isn’t crazy about the name

Callum

Griffin – love the nn Finn, but a friend recently named her son Griffin

We are planning on having only 2 children, so as of now, it’ll be Bianca and Daphne or Bianca and Baby Boy…HELP!

I think Willem is a wonderful choice, and I think you can avoid Willy unless he himself chooses it, which seems unlikely. The main downside of the name, I think, is that the popularity of the name William could create constant misunderstandings and misspellings as people assume you’ve said/written William.

I agree with you about names running into each other. I think if I loved a name above all others and with the passion of at least one or two suns, I would use it anyway, and then I would practice saying the name distinctly, with a pause: “Lucas. Spam.” Or, as I imagine going up to the reception desk at school or at the doctor’s office, I might say, “This is Lucas. Lucus Spam.” Yes, I think that would work fine. But the issue would knock the name lower on my list.

The name Wilco has seized my imagination. It seems just wonderful. It has the easy nickname Will, but without Willem’s problem with being confused with William. It’s distinctive and Dutch and easy to explain to anyone whose eyebrows go up (“My husband is Dutch; it’s a common Dutch name”), and especially with that -o ending I think it has huge potential for crossover to U.S. usage. My guess is that the only reason it HASN’T crossed over is that people haven’t heard of it. Or possibly because the -co ending might sound a little corporate? But that’s not what comes to mind with Marco or Nico or Rocco. In your particular family, I wonder if it’s too many C+vowel endings: Monica, Bianca, and Wilco.

If you like Finn but can’t use Griffin, there’s also Finnegan, Phineas, Fintan, or straight Finn.

If you like Grady, I’d go directly to that: it’s a stand-alone name, and I think Graydon sounds like a Braden-offshoot name invented to give Grady a more formal version.

I don’t like the matching M-endings of Callum Spam. I wonder if you’d like Calvin? Calvin Spam; Bianca and Calvin; Bia and Cal.

I love Kiefer best. It’s energetic and unusual, but familiar and completely fits in with the current fashion for surname names, as well as fitting beautifully with Bianca. Kiefer Spam. Bianca and Kiefer. I love that so much, it’s tempting to pressure you.

Baby Boy Purant-with-a-D

Lauren writes:

My husband and I were sure we were having a girl until our ultrasound said otherwise! We have one boy’s name that we had both liked early on (Oscar), but now that it’s “real” I’m not sure it’s right for our son. And with time ticking (we’re due in May, but I’m a planner), my husband is quick to veto but unable to come up with his own suggestions! We actually do agree on general ideas (not too trendy or popular, we like traditional/old-timey/preppy names, and we have no syllable/vowel/whatever preferences or requirements about it) but when it comes to specifics, we’re having some trouble. My husband’s name is Fletcher which he and I both LOVE. We have only met one other Fletcher ever but it’s not a “weird” name by any means. We would love to find something just like that for our boy!

My absolute favorites are Griffin and Fisher, but he’s not sold on either of them yet. Names we both generally like include Felix, Oscar, Owen, Milo, and Henry, but we think that the last three are too trendy (we love Liam, but that has the same problem). Our tastes do diverge, though. I love names like Connor, Cooper, Hunter, Jonah, Jude, Miles, Miller, Rowan, Sawyer, and Spencer–none of which he likes enough (and some he hates!). He loves Elliot but I like it better as a middle name. Other middle names we like include Leighton, Freeland, and Montgomery (all family names, though that’s not a stipulation). His last name will be my husband’s last name which starts with a D and rhymes with Purant (think the sound a cat makes plus the insect)–so names like Grant are out. I also don’t like D first names with a D last name.

Anyway, as you can see, we could use some help! Is Fisher too matchey with my husband’s name? Is there a good middle name for Griffin that would make my husband love it? Are we missing that magic name? Is there a combination in all of these that we aren’t seeing?? There’s a good chance that this will be our only child but it’s possible that we’ll have one more. If we were having a girl, we would have named her Mabel, Clementine, or Clara.

Many thanks and Happy New Year!! I promise to send an update AND a picture when our son arrives. And because you seem like the kind of person who might like this, here’s a preview of what he looks like. The caption would read “Hi Swistle, please help name me!”

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This is a suggestion you have certainly thought of, but I am going to go right ahead and make it anyway because it’s kind of an uncommon to start up in our generation: how would you feel about having a junior? You and your husband both love your husband’s name, and you’d both like something just like that for your son—so perhaps go right for it?

Or he wouldn’t have to be a full junior: you could give him a different middle name, to reduce confusion and to let you still have the fun of choosing at least one new name.

If you’d rather not, but you wouldn’t mind using something very close, Thatcher or Archer would be adorable. (I learned just this minute from The Baby Name Wizard that a fletcher is an arrow-maker, so that makes Archer particularly appealing for that connection.) Fisher is a great name and I want to finally know someone who uses it—but I think it’s confusing/tongue-twisting with Fletcher (I keep getting Flesher and Fitcher.)

I wish he liked Miller. That seems like a really good one.

Instead of Elliot: Everett or Emmett.

Instead of Liam: Leon.

Instead of Griffin: Gideon or Finnegan or Phineas.

I also love Felix from your list. When I was reading through the letter but before I’d gotten to that list, I thought “They like Oscar and Fletcher—I should suggest Felix!”

Milo might be a little trendy, helped in this impression by a couple of actresses who used the name for their sons. But it’s been awhile since anyone famous used it, and I’m only willing to say “MIGHT” be a “LITTLE” trendy, and it was one of the three finalists for my youngest baby, and I still really like it for you. That little ultrasound hand-wave has the attitude of a Milo, and I think Milo has just the right mix of quirky and well-rooted.

Or would you like Nico instead? Or Theo? Or Leo? or Hugo? I think Hugo would be great: Hugo Purant.

I also think you might find Oscar is the right name after all, once you’ve had time to get used to him being a boy. Oscar is so great with the sister names, if you have a girl later on: Oscar and Mabel; Oscar and Clara; Oscar and Clementine.

Harrison just came to mind. It’s surnamey like Fletcher, and it’s nice with the surname: Harrison Purant.

For a middle name, I suggest your own surname if it’s at all name-like.

For Griffin, Elliot seems like a good middle name to maybe tip your husband into using it: Griffin Elliot Purant. One downside is that the initials would spell GED, like the high school equivalency exam, but for me I don’t THINK that would be a deal-breaker.

The names Fletcher, Felix, Oscar all have a sort of crackle in them. Looking for other such names:

Aidric
Atticus
Baxter
Beckett
Declan (starts with D, I know, but I want it in the list anyway)
Ezekiel
Frederick
Haskell
Jasper
Lennox
Marcus
Mattias
Micah
Nicholson
Paxton
Walker
Winston

Or here’s a long-shot to consider: Pascal. It takes a little getting used to, but I think it has huge potential: familiar yet almost unused in the U.S., and very similar in sound to names like Oscar and Felix, and with a super sciencey namesake to boot. Pascal Mother-Surname Purant-with-a-D.

 

 

Name update! Lauren writes:

We wanted to give you an update on our little lion, who came into this world 9 weeks early. It seems that Felix Everett Purant (with a D) just could not wait any longer to be with us. He’s getting stronger by the day and we’re so in love with him. Thanks for your help–Everett was one of your suggestions and is the perfect middle name for our little guy. We’ve already gotten a million compliments on his name.

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