Update (and photo!) on Baby Naming Issue: If You Promised Not to Use an Honor Name, Do You Have to Keep that Promise?
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Baby Naming Issue: Does Eva Lee Sound Like Evilly?
Hi Swistle! I’m so excited to finally be able to write in with a question of my own!
We’re due in August with a baby girl, our first. My husband and I are on the same page when it comes to name styles, which is amazing and I’m super grateful for it, especially after reading this blog for so many years :)
The trouble I’m having is with our last name, which sounds like “Lee.” So many adorable girl names don’t work with Lee – either they run into the last name and end up sounding like the baby has just a first name (eg Emma Lee = Emily; Cora Lee = Coralie) or there is too much duplication in sounds (eg Emily Lee, Ella Lee, Holly Lee, etc).
The particular name in question at the moment though is “Eva.” It’s one of my husband’s top contenders (and I really like it as well!), and people we’ve mentioned it to have also gotten excited and urged us to use it. But I’m worried about the full name: does “Eva Lee” sound like “evilly”?? I think it totally does, and that it’s problematic to saddle a child with such a negative association.
My husband claims no one would say it in such a run-on fashion to make the association, and I realize we could give her a middle name that we like to use when saying her full name, like “Eva Katherine Lee” or something, but I certainly hardly ever use my full name when introducing myself or filling out paperwork. It also depends on pronunciation (EE-vah vs. EHH-vah) but again, I wouldn’t be able to control how people throughout her life choose to pronounce it every time.
So I’d love to get your opinion & that of your readers: am I being an oversensitive pregnant lady and too hung up on having my baby’s name sound super negative, or is this a combo you’d stay away from as well?
Thanks!
Alice
You know what, I have been so upset for so long about that poll plug-in I was using, the one that lost all the poll results for all the posts—but there comes a time where you just have to go back to what sometimes works and other times leads to crushing despair. Because this question DEMANDS a poll. It DEMANDS it. And so back we go, into the polling fray.
First I will say what I think, which is that it sounds enough like the word evilly that I believe I would be prevented from using it. I would be sorry, I would be sad, but in the end it crosses my own line.
HOWEVER. I do not feel as strictly about nicknames. If you named her, say, Evalina, and called her Eva, it bothers me MUCH MUCH LESS. For one thing, at times when you need to say the first and last names together (doctor’s office, classroom, etc.), it will generally be said with the full first name. For another thing, if the problem turns out to be TOO problematic (it can be difficult to predict ahead of time), the nickname can be dropped as a solution.
Now for the poll. It’s been awhile, so I will remind everyone that the polls NEVER have enough answers to fit everyone’s exact answer. NEVER. If they did, there would be a 1000-option poll with one vote each for the 1000 different options, and that would be of very little help. Instead, we narrow the options to get a more helpful result, and use the comments section for clarifying answers further. Also, I am a bit rusty about polls, so this one may be PARTICULARLY poor with option choices. It may take a bit of warm-up before we are back into this completely.
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Name update:
Apologies for the delayed update! It was a hard choice, because I am still totally in love with the name Eva, but I decided I couldn’t handle a lifetime of second-guessing myself on the “evilly” front… so in August we welcomed miss Juliette Elizabeth:
Whether or Not a Letter is Real; Whether or Not Our Advice is Taken
I would like to talk a little bit about two topics that come up fairly often in the comments section, and which I think are somewhat related. The first topic is whether or not any particular letter is real, and the second is the rate at which our advice is taken.
There are certain posts which can cause the reader to think, “Wait. Can this be real?” When I am going through the letters and deciding which ones to answer, this frequently catches my attention too. Sometimes it is the circumstance that seems unlikely; sometimes there is something that just seems off about the tone of whole thing. (Sometimes this tone can come from the writer trying to protect identifying details.) Other times, nothing in a letter catches my attention—but months later I will get another letter from the same email address, describing a completely different situation with different sibling names, and I will realize one or the other or both letters were fake.
You may well wonder if this bothers me, and there are times when it does: no one likes to feel foolish, and spending time sincerely answering a totally fake letter could potentially make me feel fooled, and therefore foolish. It generally doesn’t, however, and this brings me to the second topic. We’ll need to take a bit of a leap to get there, but stay with me and I will tie it all up together.
It is common for a commenter to get discouraged, when we get update after update where the letter-writer has asked for our advice and then seems to have decided not to take it. You might think this would be discouraging to me as well, and yet with very few exceptions it isn’t. This is for many reasons, from “feeling that sometimes the benefit of advice is that it reinforces the opposite opinion” to “feeling that sometimes the real benefit comes from seeing a variety of viewpoints” to “we NEVER all agree, and the letter-writer can’t take EVERYONE’S contradictory advice.” But another large part is because awhile back, when thinking about why it was that I loved writing here but didn’t like doing private consultations, I realized that although this blog APPEARS to be written for the benefit of the letter-writers, it is ACTUALLY written almost solely for the benefit of those of us who like to talk about baby names. The whole point of the blog was that I wanted to talk/think about baby names MUCH MORE than I had babies to name, so I wanted a place where I could spend time with other people who felt the same way.
I assume we DO all hope our discussions will help the letter-writers (and other parents experiencing similar problems)—but the real, true, deep-down purpose of each letter is to be a jumping-off place for OUR discussion. This is why I don’t mind taking a letter from someone who has a hypothetical question over a letter from someone in labor: because it is not really ABOUT how badly the letter-writer needs us, it is about how much we want to discuss the topic. There are days I cannot face explaining EVER AGAIN about how the #1 name of today is not of comparable popularity to the name Jennifer in the 1970s, and yet I would LOVE to talk about a dilemma I haven’t considered before, sent by someone who is not even pregnant yet.
Clearly, this is not something I want at the forefront of everyone’s mind all the time. It feels happier and more purposeful all around if the overall feeling is that the letter-writers need help, and we provide help. And yet I think it is happier and more satisfying and less discouraging in the long run to realize that is not the real story.
For one thing, it takes away the discouraged feeling when letter-writers decide against even near-unanimous advice. Even if no one EVER took our advice, WE still had the fun of discussing the topic and maybe continuing to think about it while doing boring chores, and also the fun of getting peeks into other people’s lives and situations and naming preferences/styles. (And this is why I hope letter-writers won’t feel shy about updating us, even if they decided to go a different way: I care very much about knowing the outcome, and little to nothing about whether it’s the same outcome I voted for.)
For another thing, it takes away the need to determine if a particular letter is really truly real before posting/discussing it. Not only would this be almost impossible to verify anyway, it does not matter: all WE wanted was the fun of discussing baby names, and we GOT that. If the letter-writer is someone not actually experiencing the described situation, they have gained nothing from our reply, and we have lost nothing—and we have still gained the fun of discussing the situation; and other parents in similar-but-actually-real situations have still gained the benefit of reading about it.
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