Juniper

Meg writes:

I’m curious, where did the name Juniper come from? All of a sudden I’ve heard of 3 little girls being named Juniper, and I thought it was a regional thing, but then I read your post about another couple considering it… Just curious if you have any idea where this one comes from.

I’m curious, too! I think it’s like the name Cadence, which showed up practically out of NOWHERE and was suddenly EVERYWHERE.

I think it’s a combination of a few things:

1) The rhythm of Jennifer
2) The familiarity of June
3) The cuteness of Piper

I think the name Juniper hits that perfect balance of out-there and familiar, so that a much wider range of people like it than typical. I remember when I first heard the name Cadence: it was in one of the worst movies I have ever seen, and when the name was used I was ELECTRIFIED by it and immediately added it to my baby name book, which didn’t have it. It was the same with the name Juniper.

That’s a danger sign, by the way, if you want to avoid popular names. If you hear a name and it ELECTRIFIES you and you think, “WHY has no one USED this glorious NAME??”—it is very likely that a hundred thousand other people are thinking the same thought. If you mention it to a few other people and they are all electrified, too, just walk away sister.

Well, unless you’re like me and you don’t really want to use a name until it’s pretty mainstream. In that case, good news! Juniper isn’t in the Top Thousand for any year in the last 200 (source: Social Security baby name site), but I’ll bet you a dollar we’ll see it REAL SOON and that it’ll be moving up REAL FAST.

Baby Boy, Brother to John Thomas (Jack)

S. writes:

I’m SO thankful for your site. We are having our second boy any day now and just can’t settle on a name! We have two little girl names picked out, but of course we are having a boy! Our first little boy is named John Thomas and we call him Jack. His name comes from both sides of our family and was very easy for us to choose, we named him years before we were ever pregnant. This little guy on the other hand is still nameless!! With our complicated last name we tend to think simple names are best. I love Charlie, Henry, and Oliver; husband doesn’t love any of those. He would use Charles in a name but wouldn’t call him Charlie. Husband loves Connor, Parker, & Cooper and I’m not wild about any of them. We are closest to agreeing on Mason or William. My concern with Mason is it’s growing popularity. I really like timeless, classic names and I’m really afraid that Mason is going to be a trendy fad name which is not at all what we want. I don’t mind a name being common, like Jack, if it is also classic. William fits all of those criteria but it just feels kind of vanilla to me…nothing bad nothing great. I’d really like to feel great about our son’s name, of course! The only other requirments are that the name can’t end in T because our last name does and the first letter of our last name is S so we have to be careful about initals!
THANK YOU for any help you can offer!!!

I think the name Mason is going to be okay. I looked it up on the Social Security baby name site and although it’s true its popularity is increasing, it’s gradual not spiked—showing a name that is probably going through one of many cycles of increasing/decreasing popularity as the classics do, rather than a name that’s coming in on one wave and going out with the next as the trendies do. Since 1880 (that’s as far as the “Popularity of a Name” feature looks back), Mason has been in steady use. Its current popularity is in the 30s, like Jack. (The name John is in the teens.) If you like Mason, I think it’s great. John Thomas and Mason. Mason William, perhaps.

If William better suits your love of classic and timeless names, I am virtually certain it will grow on you even more with time. My first choice here, in fact, would be William Mason. I think that goes so nicely with John Thomas, and then you have the nicknames Jack and Will. Swoon!

Baby Girl Cargill

Crystal writes:

I’ve been reading your blog, never thinking I would have to request help myself, but things are getting desperate. Why, you ask? Well, let me introduce you to my difficult husband. The man who likes no names. I am fairly picky myself, but have suggested at least 40 names that he’s struck down (using his extensive vocab of choice words to express his contempt). Please help us. Our baby needs a name, and I’m pretty sure my husband wants to keep from being strangled. The basics:

I’m due on April 11th with our second girl.

Our daughter’s name is Melia Quinn Cargill (muh-LEE-ah)

Names I like that have been rejected: Eliana, Eliza, Ciana, Sabine, Zadie, Cela, Lily

Name I love that he is “considering”: Juniper

The only name he actually cares for right now: Tessa

We don’t like popular names (I know, I know), but I like names of lots of different styles. I couldn’t tell you what style he prefers, but his most violent reaction is against the unisex names. He also isn’t a fan of the noun names–places, flowers, etc.

We don’t have any specific requirements about name length, certain letters, etc., and I feel like most names go with Cargill. Obviously, we haven’t even gotten anywhere near the whole middle names issue.

So I’m kind of at a loss. I feel like it is going to have to be something obscure that we haven’t come across. Any help would be wonderful.

Thanks,
Crystal

p.s. If you don’t have any naming help, maybe you know of a way I could bypass him when the birth certificate signing time comes around. I kid. Sort of. He really is a great guy–there’s just something about this naming issue…

Some people (I am looking at YOU, Paul) are truly skilled at shooting down every possibility presented to them. Saying “Fine. YOU make a list, then” can lead to some helpful discussions. When I made Paul do it, he came up with a list of, basically, 1980s cheerleaders. It was nice to be the scoffer for a change, and he was more reasonable about MY suggestions after being on the receiving end of scoff.

Well, fine. His list is one name long: Tessa. So how about a list from me?

Britta Cargill; Melia and Britta
Clarissa Cargill; Melia and Clarissa
Darcy Cargill; Melia and Darcy
Juliet Cargill; Melia and Juliet
June Cargill; Melia and June
Romy Cargill; Melia and Romy
Sylvie Cargill; Melia and Sylvie
Willa Cargill; Melia and Willa

Anyone else want to take a shot at it? And let’s have a poll over to the right. [Poll closed; see results below.]

Poll results (264 votes total):
Tessa: 59 votes, roughly 22%
Britta: 32 votes, roughly 12%
Clarissa: 11 votes, roughly 4%
Darcy: 20 votes, roughly 7%
Juliet: 41 votes, roughly 15%
June: 21 votes, roughly 8%
Romy: 29 votes, roughly 11%
Sylvie: 28 votes, roughly 11%
Willa: 23 votes, roughly 9%

Baby Boy Fetterman

Stacy writes:

I am due in April with our third child who is a boy. We have a 4 year old girl named Ella Lee (Lee after my mother) and a 16 month old boy named Brody Louis (Louis after my husbands middle name). Our last name is Fetterman. We had a very hard time with our first son’s name and are having an even harder time with this one. I want a name that is not too common or too trendy, and does not end in -on, -en, -in.

Names I like are Brooks, Bennett (Ben), and Decon. I love Cade, but it’s too popular now. We also both like Cole but have a friend with a son Cole. My husband doesn’t like any of my names and wants a name that is strong and not so different that he hasn’t heard it before. He likes Joel and Eli. We both like Joel but his mother’s side of the family is Hispanic and will most likely (even just to annoy me) pronounce the name Joe-el which will drive me crazy. We thought about using a different spelling like Jole but are afraid that it would be pronounced Jo-lee. I also thought about Johl, but am not sure if it looks too odd and one of the reasons we like Joel in the first place was because it was a biblical name. Eli is too close to Ella. I am thinking that we will be using Robert, Allen or Taylor for a middle name after family members. We are stuck and have no names on our list so any suggestions would be great! Thanks for your help!

Here are some biblical names I like with Ella and Brody (I used The Baby Name Wizard‘s biblical names section to help me out here, and didn’t check to see if any of them had negative biblical associations):

Asher
Caleb
Cyrus
Isaac
Joah
Judah
Jude
Saul
Titus

Joah is pretty unusual (I’d never heard of it) but I put it on the list because it’s similar to Joel. Saul, too, reminds me of Joel, but without the Jo-el problem.

And you know what name occurred to me when I was looking at your list? Cale. (I prefer the spelling Cael, but it has the Ca-el problem, and also it looks more feminine to me.) It’s like Joel, Cade, and Cole all wrapped into one. Cale Fetterman. Ella, Brody, and Cale. You could name him Caleb and nickname him Cale, too, if that would appeal more to your husband’s wish for a name he’s heard before.

Or Dane? Dane Fetterman. Ella, Brody, and Dane.

Keane? Keane Fetterman. Ella, Brody, and Keane.

Wade? Wade Fetterman. Ella, Brody, and Wade.

Name update 04-21-2009! Stacy writes:

Thanks so much for all of the wonderful suggestions! Brooks Allen Fetterman was born on April 15th. I got lucky and after not being able to agree on anything my husband decided Brooks had grown on him. I say the baby makes the name and although it wasn’t his first choice I know he will love it later.

Addison, Quincy, Micah, and Baby Boy ____?

Renee writes:

My husband and I are due with baby #4 in just under 2 weeks. Our three girls are named Addison Anna (called Addie), Quincy Eliza (Quin) and Micah Joy (who we call “Micah Joy” exclusively). We know we’re having a boy this time around, and are very excited. However, we are having a very difficult time finding a name. I think the problem (at least for me) is that our daughters have very strong names and it’s difficult to find a boy’s name that doesn’t strike me as, well, girly. We’ve agreed that the middle name will be Thomas–my husband’s middle name. But as for a first name, we’re pretty stuck.

I like the idea of a strong, traditional name like John, Edward or James, but I think they’re a bit too plain and don’t go well with the girls’ names. Hubby likes Harrison, Charles (Charlie) and Benjamin–but does concede that Harrison is too much like Addison, and Charlie and Ben feel too plain for the girls’ names.

The one name we had been seriously considering was Archer… and I do still like it, as does my husband…It’s strong, and I think it flows really well… Archer Thomas Lenox. The problem is, we do watch Private Practice on ABC, and Dr. Addison Montgomery has a brother named Archer. And that bothers me. Because when we gave Addie her name, it was not super trendy, but since Grey’s Anatomy, it’s become much more mainstream. And because we don’t want to seem like crazy TV fans…
….is that irrational?

I just feel like we’re completely out of ideas. Any and all suggestions would be welcomed! Thanks so much!

I do think it sounds okay when a family has a different naming style for the boys than for the girls. A family might not want to name sisters Gabriella and Taylor because of the startlingly different styles, but I think it’s okay to have a sister Gabriella and a brother Tyler. Something about the gender line makes it okay to mix. So if you wanted to have a John, Edward, James, Charles, or Benjamin, I think those all work great. In fact, since your girls’ names are all androgynous, a classic and unmistakable boy name might be just the thing.

But if they seem too plain, I love Archer. It’s a great name; it’s similar in style to your girls’ names; it’s great with Thomas Lenox; and you both really like it. Let’s put a poll over to the right to see how strong the Addison/Archer connection is. [Poll closed; see results below.] I wouldn’t have thought of it, especially with several siblings separating the two names, but I’d be interested to see if it pops into other people’s minds.

Poll results (335 votes total) for the question “Would you have thought of the Addison/Archer connection?”:
Yes: 54 votes, roughly 16%
Only if it were pointed out to me: 51 votes, roughly 15%
No: 80 votes, roughly 24%
Who?: 150 votes, roughly 45%
(No plus Who: 230 votes, roughly 69%)

Baby Girl Oliver

Britt writes:

I’m hoping you can help my sister. She is due with her second baby, a girl, in early April. When she was pregnant with her first, she and her husband could not come to an agreement on a name. In fact, my poor little neice was nameless for 3 days before they decided on Clara Grace. I’m hoping they’ll avoid that this time. Names she loves are Eliza, Emma, Gloria (an old family name), Audrey, and the most recent favorite is Macy Jane. Unfortunately, her husband is extremely picky and has vetoed all of these except Emma, which she doesn’t want to use because of its popularity. I’m hoping you could suggest some names along the same lines that we maybe haven’t thought of yet. Their last name is Oliver, which rules out anything ending in -er and another of her favorites – Ellie – because there are too many “l” sounds.

Oh, Clara is such a pretty name! I love it! Let’s see if we can find a pretty name for Clara’s sister.

I like Anna. It’s similar to Emma, and it’s great with Clara. I like Gloria as the middle name: Anna Gloria Oliver. Clara and Anna.

Or Lucy. Lucy Gloria Oliver. Clara and Lucy.

Elsa is similar to Ellie, but I think the L sound is less of a problem. Elsa Gloria Oliver. Clara and Elsa.

Sadie. Sadie Gloria Oliver. Clara and Sadie.

(I’m so presumptuous, aren’t I, putting that Gloria as the middle name for every single one. I love it, and I love old family names.)

Ruby. Ruby Gloria Oliver. Clara and Ruby.

Louisa. Louisa Gloria Oliver. Clara and Louisa.

Let’s have a poll over to the right! [Poll closed; see results below.] And when voting, keep in mind that “Gloria” isn’t set as a middle name, even though Swistle keeps pushing for it.

Poll results (296 votes total):
Anna: 48 votes, roughly 16%
Lucy: 88 votes, roughly 30%
Elsa: 21 votes, roughly 7%
Sadie: 63 votes, roughly 21%
Ruby: 46 votes, roughly 16%
Louisa: 30 votes, roughly 10%

Name update! Britt writes:

Even with all your help reaching an agreement on a name was difficult for my sister and brother-in-law. My new niece was nameless for 2 days before my she and my sister were discharged from the hospital. Eventually they went with Macy Jane, and it fits her perfectly – she’s a little redhead and it’s a spunky and sweet name. We are calling her by both names, which I think is very southern. Thanks for all your help!

Baby Boy Matthews

Molly writes:

We are expecting our second boy to arrive via c-section on 4/7 and are stuck on name options. We keep thinking we have it narrowed down, and then one of us wavers and we’re back to square one. Our older son is named Reed Alexander Matthews. Reed is a family name, and Alexander is my husband. We do know that we want to use Wallace as a middle name for this baby. We’ve kicked around Ryan, Rowan, and Quinn, but keep getting stuck and can’t make a decision. Our only requirements are that it go well with Reed and it not be too popular or overused.

Do you have any ideas or suggestions that would meet our criteria that we’re just not seeing?

The Baby Name Wizard suggests Grant as a brother for Reed/Reid. Grant Wallace Matthews. Reed and Grant. More options:

Declan. Declan Wallace Matthews. Reed and Declan.
Casey. Casey Wallace Matthews. Reed and Casey.
Tiernan. Tiernan Wallace Matthews. Reed and Tiernan.
Keegan. Keegan Wallace Matthews. Reed and Keegan.
Corbin. Corbin Wallace Matthews. Reed and Corbin.
Cael. Cael Wallace Matthews. Reed and Cael.

But you know what I think I like best? Quinn, from your list. Quinn Wallace Matthews. Reed and Quinn. I also like Corbin. Let’s put a poll over to the right and see what everyone else thinks. [Poll closed; see results below.]

Poll results (284 votes total):
Ryan: 30 votes, roughly 11%
Rowan: 16 votes, roughly 6%
Quinn: 88 votes, roughly 31%
Grant: 81 votes, roughly 29%
Declan: 17 votes, roughly 6%
Casey: 4 votes, roughly 1%
Tiernan: 4 votes, roughly 1%
Keegan: 8 votes, roughly 3%
Corbin: 30 votes, roughly 11%
Cael: 6 votes, roughly 2%

Name update 04-22-2009. Molly writes:

Thank you so much for all of your suggestions, and for the helpful poll. We were on the fence right up to the last minute. We hadn’t considered the name Grant at all until your poll, and when it became a front-runner and we chatted about it some more, we decided that we liked it quite a bit. When we went into the OR for the c-section, we had narrowed our options down to Grant and Quinn, and agreed to see what he looked like before tagging him with a name. Once we got a good look at him, we agreed that he is definitely a Grant.

Thanks again for all of your (and your followers) helpful advice!

Baby Boy Not-Theodore

Maggie writes:

We really need you and your reader’s help!! Our baby is arriving any day now (officially due next Friday) and my dear husband recently decided he no longer likes the boy’s name we agreed on. And it took us literally the whole nine months to find one name we could both live with, so we’re back at square one. We don’t know baby’s gender, but if it’s a girl, she will be either Julia, Sophia, or Laurel. We’ve had these names forever, we love them all, it’s just a matter of seeing which one “fits” her once she’s here. Girls names are easy!

BUT if baby is a boy, we have a problem. The name we had agreed on was Theodore, intending to call him Teddy when he’s little and letting him decide once he’s older whether he wants to be Theo, Teddy, or Theodore. My husband has suddenly decided it’s not masculine enough, although he would still consider it for a middle name. It was not my first choice, but I was happy enough with it.

My top picks for boys were Alan and Jonathan. Husband’s top picks were John and Matthew. We could both live with Alan or Matthew from the other’s list, but don’t love them. (And Matthew sort of rhymes with the last syllable of our last name, which sounds funny to me.) As you can see, we partly agree on the John thing, but I dislike one syllable first names — no offense to anyone — and so even if we call him John for short, would like a longer formal first name. Are there any other longer names that have the nickname John? Husband will not consider Jonathan because we already have two immediate family members with the name, even though our son would have a different last name than the other two. The other problem is one side of the family is Greek, and would call John “Yanni” which I don’t think I can handle. I really really really don’t like the sound of Yanni, which makes me reluctant to use John. Our last name is long and Greek and ends with an “ew” sound, which means we want an recognizably male, simple spelling and easy pronounciation first name, nothing new-fangled or creative.

Other names we cannot use because of family: Robert, Andrew, Alexander, Stephen, David, James, Benjamin, Lucas, William, Nicholas. Names I liked but DH refused: Nathaniel, Christopher, Julius, Lawrence.

Any ideas for us? Thanks so much!

Another name that could be shortened to John is Johnson. My brother’s dorm floor had a secret pet kitten, and they named him Johnson, and I thought that was the cutest name EVER—until someone explained to me that it was an, er, nickname. For something boys have and girls don’t, if you follow me. And according to my brother, EVERYONE knows this, but I did not. Apparently boys know this. And also, maybe boys need a naming blog devoted to their Special Interest? Because they have an awful lot of names for It.

Johnston is slightly less risky. But it sounds like the “Yanni” thing rules out John names for you guys.

And oh dear heavens, look at all the good basic boy names you can’t use for family-already-used-them reasons! No wonder you’re stuck! Here’s a list of some good basic boy names NOT on the veto list:

Caleb
Daniel
Edward (could still use Ted/Teddy, or Ned)
Edmund (could still use Ted/Teddy, or Ned)
Eric
Ethan
Evan
Henry
Ian
Isaac
Jacob (same J/Y problem, though?)
Joshua (same J/Y problem, though?)
Michael
Nathan (maybe too close to Nathaniel)
Samuel
Thomas

I’m leaning toward Evan: it’s a distant relative of the name John; it has the rhythm of Alan; it’s simple to spell and pronounce, etc. Evan Matthew. Evan Theodore. But I also really like Caleb. Caleb Theodore. Caleb Matthew. Caleb John.

In fact, I like lots of these. Michael Alan. Edmund Matthew. Daniel John. Edward Alan. Eric John. Ian Matthew.

Baby Girl Hayes

Allison writes:

I’m due with my first child in early April. My husband and I have completely different styles! His name (Michael) was the top name the year he was born, so he’s drawn to unusual, uncommon names. My name (Allison) was common, but never crazy popular, which is a quality I’d like to have in my own daughter’s name. We kept putting off major discussions about names because it’s been so hard to reach a solution we both like, but our little girl is going to be here soon and she needs a name!

Michael and I each made a list of our top eight, with our favorites at the top. Mine is: Lila, Sophie, Grace, Ruby, Madeleine, Isabel, Lucy, and Reese. His is: Magnolia, Cecilia, Seraphina, Christabel, Aurelia, Lavinia, Priscilla, and Portia.

From his list, I like Magnolia, Cecilia, Seraphina, and Aurelia – but I don’t love them. They’re a little too over-the-top for me to use. He says my list is too popular, and she’ll forever be known as Sophie H. (Our last name is Hayes.) We both agreed that if he gets final say on the FN, I get to choose the MN (or vice-versa), but in the ideal situation, I’d want both of us to LOVE the whole name, you know what I mean?

So, to recap: We’re looking for a name that is a good compromise between unusual names and common names, that fits with the last name Hayes. Any suggestions?

Well, Ruby’s a good one. It’s common enough to be familiar, but in 2007 it was only used for .1368% of baby girls. (Source: Social Security baby name site.) If we assume a classroom size of 20 children, with 10 of them girls, that means there’d be, on average, one Ruby per 75 classrooms. It’s possible she’d be a Ruby H., especially if that area of the country is particularly fond of the name, but it’s unlikely.

But what you’re asking for is names that are not on either list, so let’s see if we can find something between the lists. For example, he likes Seraphina and you like Sophie, so we’ll look for something between celebrity-level uncommonness and Top 20. Josephine has that “fee(n)” sound. Phoebe has the “fee” sound, too, and the rhythm of Sophie. The name Serena is like Seraphina with a chunk removed to make it shorter and simpler. Sabrina is classic and beautiful and familiar but not much used. Selina is another good one.

You like Grace and Lucy; he likes Cecelia and Priscilla. Celia shortens/simplifies Cecelia, and also avoids the song. Lucia lengthens and dresses up Lucy. (The Baby Name Wizard says it can be pronounced LOO-sha or loo-CHEE-a or loo-SEE-a; it’s loo-SEE-a I have in mind.) The name Lia might appeal to both of you: it’s short and sweet, feminine and pretty, and three of his name choices end in it–but it’s similar to Lila on your list. Clarice is pretty and unusual, without the frou-frou ending, and it sounds like Reese (you could even use that as a nickname). Clara ends in the -a he prefers, but in style it’s more similar to Grace and Lucy.

So here’s my list of suggestions so far:

Celia Hayes
Clarice Hayes
Clara Hayes
Josephine Hayes
Lia Hayes
Lucia Hayes
Phoebe Hayes
Sabrina Hayes
Selina Hayes
Serena Hayes

My favorite is Clara. Let’s have a poll over to the right to see everyone else’s favorites [poll closed; see results below], and also let people chime in with any other simplifications/dress-ups.

Poll results (309 votes total):
Celia: 46 votes, roughly 15%
Clarice: 4 votes, roughly 1%
Clara: 45 votes, roughly 15%
Josephine: 56 votes, roughly 18%
Lia: 21 votes, roughly 7%
Lucia: 27 votes, roughly 9%
Phoebe: 33 votes, roughly 11%
Sabrina: 39 votes, roughly 13%
Selina: 6 votes, roughly 2%
Serena: 32 votes, roughly 10%

Name update 04-10-2009! Allison writes:

Delilah Juliet Hayes arrived on April 5, 2009. Although ultimately, we didn’t go with any of your suggestions, we both love her name and it fits her perfectly. Thank you!

Quick Poll: Virtue Names

Which of these virtue names do you like best?

Amity
Charity
Faith
Grace
Honor
Hope
Mercy
Patience
Verity

Poll is over to the right. [Poll closed; see results below.]

Poll results (407 votes total):
Amity: 16 votes, roughly 4%
Charity: 9 votes, roughly 2%
Faith: 52 votes, roughly 13%
Grace: 197 votes, roughly 48%
Honor: 28 votes, roughly 7%
Hope: 58 votes, roughly 14%
Mercy: 7 votes, roughly 2%
Patience: 2 votes, roughly 0%
Verity: 38 votes, roughly 9%