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Baby Naming Issue: The Politics of Hope

Josie writes:

We’re having a baby girl and we’re going to name her Samantha. Now the middle name is giving us pause. I’ve loved the name Faith, but alas it is my husband’s sister’s name, and his family is Jewish so they won’t name after living relatives. So then we moved on to a name with similar meaning — which is why I’ve loved it so — and wound up with Hope.

Perhaps you see where this is going. We forgot about Obama. I don’t think I have it in me to name my daughter after a presidential campaign, because what if Obama is a flop? What if he sucks? What if we look like cliche liberal assholes?

Is there any resource that will show similar meaning names? Because really, Samantha Hope? Oh good heavens. How do I explain that one? Oh HAI. AM LOONY DEMOCRAT WHO MIGHT AS WELL NAME HER DAUGHTER MICHELLE OBAMA.

I spent some time searching online for a similar-meaning-names resource. What I found was a lot of really unpleasant, flashing-ad-ridden baby name sites. The only grain I found in all the chaff was the name Nadia, which evidently means hope. That’s it. It’s Nadia or it’s Itxaro, apparently. And Samantha Nadia, while fine, doesn’t have the ring of Samantha Faith or Samantha Hope.

I have another suggestion, however. What about Joy? Samantha Joy. It’s beautiful, it’s meaningful, and it has the same rhythm as Samantha Faith or Samantha Hope. But is that a problem because it shares your initial?

And I have one more suggestion: use Samantha Hope. I wouldn’t have made the association myself, I think because the name Hope is so established already as a girl’s name. It isn’t as if you’re using Samantha Yeswecan or Samantha Maverick. My opinion, in fact, is that this is a non-issue: that you can freely use the middle name Hope without anyone associating it with politics.

But this is the kind of opinion that begs for a larger-sample-size survey. What do the rest of you think? If you heard of a baby girl named Samantha Hope, would you associate it with the new U.S. president? Vote in the poll to the right. [Poll closed; see below.]

[Poll results (292 votes total) for “Does the name Hope have political associations for you?”

Yes: 15 votes, roughly 5%
No: 224 votes, roughly 77%
What are you talking about?: 53 votes, roughly 18%]

Baby Girl Annabel, Anna, or Elizabeth

Jennifer writes:

I really hope you and your readers can help me and my husband choose a name for our little girl. We have narrowed down the first name to three possibilities: Annabel, Anna, or Elizabeth. I have always liked Elizabeth, Anna is a family name on my side, and Annabel I just thought of from Anna. My husband prefers Anna and Elizabeth. He worries if Annabel sounds too Southern, old-fashioned, or Disneyish. We do live in the South though, and are pretty old-fashioned people! I am leaning toward Annabel or Elizabeth. Anna sounds a little too serious to me. If we use Anna or Annabel, we are thinking we should maybe not use Elizabeth as a middle name in case we have another girl someday, and vice versa. (This is our first child.) We also aren’t sure about middle names, but here are our ideas:

Annabel Catherine
Annabel Kathryn
Annabel Elizabeth
Annabel Hiers
Annabel Teresa

Anna Catherine
Anna Kathryn
Anna Elizabeth
Anna Teresa

Elizabeth Briggs
Elizabeth Hiers
Elizabeth Teresa

Catherine, Kathryn, and Elizabeth are all family names on my husband’s side, as is Hiers (pronounced high-ers). I also have a niece named Katherine, so that’s why we did not want to use it as a first name. Teresa is from my family, as is Briggs. We are open to other names, but feel pretty sure about the choices for first names. We like having family connections and names that flow nicely together. Some other names in our familes are Mary, Colleen, Laura, Kelly, Ellen, Lillian, Nora, Augusta, Jean, Virgina, Margaret, Pauline…

And Jennifer writes again:

We have narrowed it down (I think) since my last e-mail to Anna Kathryn, Annabel Hiers, Annabel Kathryn, and Elizabeth Briggs.

Okay, I’ll put those four finalists in a poll to the right [poll closed; see below], but everyone feel free to chime in if you prefer other combinations!

[Poll results (264 votes total):
Anna Kathryn: 62 votes, roughly 23%
Annabel Hiers: 50 votes, roughly 19%
Annabel Kathryn: 79 votes, roughly 30%
Elizabeth Briggs: 73 votes, roughly 28%]

Baby Girl Muriel

K writes:

Here is my situation: my husband and I are expecting our first child, a baby girl, this fall and we have always wanted to name our first daughter after my deceased grandmother, whose name was Muriel. Here is my problem: our taste in names runs to the highly unusual (not in the top 1000), and while Muriel is currently unusual, it still seems very old lady-ish to me, and I’m not sure if it is ready for a revival like so many other “grandma” names seem to be these days.

So my question is, do you know of any forms/nicknames of the name Muriel that are a bit more modern while still unusual? We are not overly concerned with it matching with our last name or any particular middle, so just whatever you can think of! To give you an idea of our taste in names, our favorite girl names (for future siblings) are Verity, Romilly, Bronte, and Zellie. To clarify, we do not want to use one of these as a first name with Muriel as a middle. It is important for us to use some form of Muriel as a first name…we’re just hoping to find something that is more along the lines of the names above!

I think if I were you, I would go ahead and use Muriel as-is. Muriel, by being old-fashioned but unlike the currently-trendy old-lady names, will go along with the others without being as much of a risk for a sudden spike in popularity. It also seems to me like using your grandmother’s actual name would be pleasing, and it also gives you something to say if people react to the name with surprise (I’ve noticed the line “It was my ____’s name” quells many an unwanted opinion.)

If you wanted to modify it to a more modern sound, I’d suggest Mariel or Meriel or Miriel (I’m thinking of Mariel and Meriel with a MARE sound like Mary or Meredith, and Miriel with a MEER sound like Miriam). It’s a change of a single vowel, but it makes the name entirely more current.

Let’s put a poll over to the right with the various options. [Poll closed; see below.]

[Poll results (244 votes total):
Muriel: 116 votes, roughly 48%
Mariel: 87 votes, roughly 36%
Meriel: 8 votes, roughly 3%
Miriel: 33 votes, roughly 14%]

Baby Boy ___ Patrick Carroll

Cara writes:

Okay…after TONS and tons of floundering back and forth between {what we think are cute} names, we need some serious help! We are due to have another sweet little man very soon and we have NO clue what name to choose. Our first son is named Landon. We LOVE his name…very strong & masculine. It goes perfectly perfect with our last name, “Carroll”. With that said, we need something just as perfectly perfect for our next son. We want something that sounds good with Landon so when I’m introducing them people don’t say, “Poor second kid…he sure got the raw end of the deal on his name.” Ya know?!

We know for sure that his middle name will be Patrick…after my dad. SO, baby #2 can’t have a name that starts with a “P” {I can barely say my first kid’s name without faltering…I definitely don’t need a tongue twister with this one!!} EVERYONE seems to have an opinion about baby #2’s name. We have about 8 names picked out {and open for more suggestions} and our families aren’t really liking any of them! I know we shouldn’t worry about that…after all, it’s OUR baby… but it’s definitely making us second guess our selections!

We’d like something that sounds different than Landon, but nothing too “out there”. We’re also not too big on “traditional” names. Something fun & cute, but not girly cute. My husband is all about the athletics, so having an “athletic” name would be better than something formal. {I know, completely random and irrelevant!!!} I’m also thinking that I don’t know if I want both boys to have names that end with the “on” sound. {I know, I know…super picky!!} We’ve also randomly talked about keeping his name “Irish”. Wow…did ya get all that?!?! SO…without further ado…here are our top choices!

1. Brody—Our favorite by far. We’ve had this one picked out since before I found out I was pregnant. I love, love, LOVE this name & think it would fit so perfectly perfect with our little family! However, our families don’t think it’s as “strong” as Landon, but I love the way “Landon & Brody” sound together!!
2. Reese — My husband’s pick. Don’t get me wrong…LOVE it, but I’m afraid it’s more on the feminine side.
3. Hayden — We like this one too, but I’m hearing it a lot for girls names these days!
4. Ayden — Right…we’re not venturing too far from Hayden on this one, but we’ve always liked this name.
5. Miles —I love this name! Not my husband’s favorite, but it made the list.
6. Gage — Love this one too…definitely not the typical name, and if there’s any name our families don’t like as much as Brody, this one is it!!
7. Grayson or Hudson —I put these together because we like them a lot, but the “on” endings might be too close to the ending in Landon.

Thanks for all the help!!!

I’m leafing through my copy of The Baby Name Wizard. It suggests these brother names for Landon: Dawson, Easton, Colby, Parker, Brennan. From that list I’m going to take Dawson: Dawson Patrick Carroll, Landon and Dawson. There will be differences of opinion on this, but to my ear the “son” ending of Dawson is different enough from the “don” ending of Landon—though the “ton” of Easton isn’t.

I looked up some of the names on your list, to see if I could get more suggestions. Interestingly, the name Landon is listed under brother names for Gage. Another brother name for Gage is Grant, and I’m adding that one too: Grant Patrick Carroll, Landon and Grant.

I’ll also add Gavin, listed as a brother name for Aidan: Gavin Patrick Carroll, Landon and Gavin.

Brother names for Miles included Simon, Malcolm, and Davis, all three of which I’m adding as possibilities. Simon Patrick Carroll, Landon and Simon. Malcolm Patrick Carroll, Landon and Malcolm. David Patrick Carroll, Landon and Davis.

Okay, and let’s add one more name: Sawyer. Sawyer Patrick Carroll. Landon and Sawyer.

This gives us a mighty long list, but I think we can manage it. Let’s put a poll over to the right. [Poll closed; see below.]

[Poll results (395 votes total):
Brody: 123 votes, roughly 31%
Reese: 9 votes, roughly 2%
Hayden: 3 votes, roughly 1%
Ayden: 7 votes, roughly 2%
Miles: 37 votes, roughly 9%
Gage: 17 votes, roughly 4%
Grayson: 9 votes, roughly 2%
Hudson: 8 votes, roughly 2%
Dawson: 17 votes, roughly 4%
Grant: 69 votes, roughly 17%
Gavin: 28 votes, roughly 7%
Simon: 6 votes, roughly 2%
Malcolm: 11 votes, roughly 3%
Davis: 9 votes, roughly 2%
Sayer: 42 votes, roughly 11%]

Baby Name to Discuss: Kaler

Katie writes:

I just found a name I like. Kaler (or you could do Caler or Kalor or Calor). It is different but sounds enough like Taylor to not be totally out there. I was thinking of it as a boy name, but is it too girly? I wish I had heard this name when naming my boy!

It reminds me too of the name Kyler, a Tyler/Kyle combination. And of the name Cale.

I think Kaler is risky for boys because of being SO CLOSE to Kayla. (In fact, Kayler would be a cute Kayla variation.) The C spelling helps dull the connection, but I find I then accidentally pronounce Cal as in Calum or Calvin (so that the name rhymes with valor instead of with tailor).

Opinions? What do you think of Kaler/Caler/Kalor/Calor? Would you use it for a boy or for a girl or for either or for neither? How would you spell it? There’s a poll over to the right. [Poll closed; see below.]

[Poll results (243 votes total):
Like it! I’d use it for a boy: 17 votes, roughly 7%
Like it! I’d use it for a girl: 6 votes, roughly 2%
Like it for someone else’s baby: 19 votes, roughly 8%
Neutral / no opinion: 10 votes, roughly 4%
Mild dislike: 67 votes, roughly 28%
Strong dislike: 124 votes, roughly 51%]

Baby Name to Discuss: Analeigh

Lara writes:

I LOVE the name Analeigh (soft “a” like ah-na), but I realized the other day how close it is to…anally. I am terrified that if I name my daughter Analeigh that she’ll be relentlessly teased throughout grade school and middle school. I can’t think of another way to spell it that takes out the “anal” part of it that isn’t obnoxiously adding extra letters.

Do you the the name is too close to the, ahem, naughty word? Can you think of a way around it?

 
I am afraid it was the very first thing that came to my mind when I saw the name—but then, this is an issue I’m on the lookout for.

I think adding a second N would help a little without being obnoxious, since Anna is spelled with two Ns. Annaleigh is already an improvement over Analeigh.

You could also divide it: Anna Leigh.

And I recently saw the name Andrea spelled Ondrea in order the get the preferred vowel pronunciation, so I suppose you could go with Onnaleigh although to me that kind of…ruins it.

What about this: Do you like the name Avaleigh, pronounced like your way of pronouncing Analeigh except with a V-sound instead of an N-sound? It completely removes the problem while leaving the essence of the name intact.

Baby Boy Eaton

Ryley writes:

My sister says I should email you. We are due with a baby boy on 12/13/08.
We are set on our girl names but boy names are a WHOLE nother story.. we can’t think of anything.. okay, I lied, we can think of things but nothing jumps out at us as “Our babies name.”

Important points. I have a unique name, Ryley. My husband is Aaron and our last name is Eaton. (so names that end with an N sound funny for the most part)
We like names that are unique, but not weird. (Doesnt everyone say that lately??) Something that is a fairly normal name but not used much…

Oh, It might be helpfull to know what we like for a girl. Our girl names of choice are:
Ellie (this is a must for my husband, but he will settle for this as a nickname)
Elliot (call her ellie)
Eliza
and my Favorite Alivia.

and now..Without further adu here is the list we have come up with : (disclaimer: Again, none of these jump out at us)

  1. Elijah – We would call him Eli. This is my dad’s favorite. One of ours also, but we really want a little girl named Ellie one day. Eli and Ellie are too close in name.. for kids that aren’t twins..
  2. Luke – good fall back name… but a little boring..
  3. Joel – also a little boring..
  4. Kyle – I don’t really know why I like this name, but I kinda do. Again.. not love..
  5. River – When his sister in law was pregnant this was the name we were all pulling for. I LOVE this name.. but just don’t know if I actually could..
  6. Joey – Boring.. but cute. Even before we knew what we were having his grandparents told us that they would really like a Joseph in the family. I was already thinking Joey at that point, but it made it a little more special.
  7. Aiden – ehhh. I like it… but its a little trendy. Plus my cousin has a little boy named Brayden.. and it just sounds to close..but it would be cute to name him Aaden so it is similar to my husband’s name of Aaron.
  8. Miles – OUR FAVORITE! but no one else likes it.. :( Which I hate.. If this baby was born today, his name would be Miles. We are totally in love with it. It still will probably be one of the top contenders.. but it makes me really sad that no one in my family likes it… Is Myles too femine? It would make it more like my name (Ryley) and I like that.. but too girly???
  9. Milo – This got vetoed faster than Miles. But also one of our favorites. I just don’t feel like its a very grown up name.
  10. Oliver – We like Oliver. Not love.. but strong like..
  11. Preston – Aaron has a really good friend named Preston. But he’s a great guy..and we like this name too..
  12. Elliot – MY FAVORITE! This was my first favorite. (Before Miles) it was actually one of my top contenders for a girls name (then call her Ellie) But I really like it for a boy also. BUT.. if we use this now, we loose our chance to use Ellie later. Since we’ll probably call him El.. or even Elli sometimes..
  13. Mason – I really like Mason. It’s my sisters middle name. Which I really like. But sounds a little silly with Eaton.
  14. Dylan or Dilan – Like this name.. but we’ve never given it a lot of thought. Just threw it out there one day and we both liked it, so it made it to the list.
  15. Cooper – I just want to call him Coop! I like Cooper.. but we’ve never really seriously discussed it either..
  16. Carter – Same with Carter. Like it.. just never thought much about it.

What do you think?

I think that after we remove the names that would interfere with a future daughter named Ellie, your favorite name on the list is Miles. The only downside of it is that other family members don’t like it—but they will come around. Miles Joseph Eaton (MJE) would be a terrific name.

Let’s put a poll over to the right to see what everyone else thinks. [poll closed; see below]

[Poll results (254 votes total):
Elijah: 2 votes, roughly 1%
Luke: 7 votes, roughly 3%
Joel: 3 votes, roughly 1%
Kyle: 2 votes, roughly 1%
River: 7 votes, roughly 3%
Joey/Joseph: 10 votes, roughly 4%
Aiden/Aaden: 2 votes, roughly 1%
Miles/Myles: 182 votes, roughly 72%
Milo: 9 votes, roughly 4%
Oliver: 9 votes, roughly 4%
Preston: 2 votes, roughly 1%
Elliot: 3 votes, roughly 1%
Mason: 3 votes, roughly 1%
Dylan/Dilan: 2 votes, roughly 1%
Cooper: 5 votes, roughly 2%
Carter: 6 votes, roughly 2%]

Baby Naming Issue: Okay to Reuse a Middle Name?

Simmone writes:

We are about to have our 3rd child and 2nd daughter. My husband and I have chosen Grace for the first name, but we are having a difficult time with the middle. We both like the feel of Grace Elizabeth, but this is where our question comes in. How do you feel about having 2 children with the same middle name? Is that ok? Or should we decide on something else to give the 2 girls different names? Do you have any other middle name suggestions?

Our other children are named:
Pearl Elizabeth
William (Liam) Luke

I think it’s fine to repeat a middle name, but I think it’s more FUN to find something different. And so let’s see if we can find some other middle names to throw into the idea pool:

Grace Amelia
Grace Angelica
Grace Cordelia
Grace Felicity
Grace Lavinia
Grace Olivia
Grace Veronica
Grace Victoria
Grace Virginia

And let’s take a poll, just to see the relatively popularity of these ideas. The poll is over to the right. [poll closed; see below]

[Poll results (256 votes total):
Elizabeth: 15 votes, roughly 6%
Amelia: 59 votes, roughly 23%
Angelica: 10 votes, roughly 4%
Cordelia: 18 votes, roughly 7%
Felicity: 7 votes, roughly 3%
Lavinia: 15 votes, roughly 6%
Olivia: 86 votes, roughly 33%
Veronica: 10 votes, roughly 4%
Victoria: 30 votes, roughly 12%
Virginia: 6 votes, roughly 2%]

Baby Boy ___ ___ Mc___

Megan writes:

I have been waiting to for this to work itself out but now I am scheduled for a c-section in three weeks (November 24th) and we are still stuck.

I have two boys and this third is a boy also. Our last name is a Mc- My first son is William Wilson (named for his dad and his grandfather and his great grandfather….etc.) and my second son is Thomas Charles. We like classic/traditional/biblical names. We also like the nickname thing (William is often called Will and Thomas is often called Tom).

The first option for little brother is Charles William. This is my dad’s name (had I known I was going to have a third boy I might have saved Charles!) and it borrows from both of his big brothers. It also has the nickname thing going (Charles and Charlie). It wraps everything quite neatly and since this is the last child for us we wont have to worry about coming up with another name that also ties in later. My husband’s concern is that maybe it is not unique enough (since he will be named after his grandfather and both his brothers) and maybe we would be better off coming up with a different name all his own? There are lots of good boy names out there! (I pointed out to him that it was sort of funny he was worried about this as our oldest son has his exact same name but he was not swayed by this reasoning.) So my first question is: Is this kind of cool or weird?

If we go with a different name then we are considering as a middle name Jesse or Robert, both family names also.

My husband’s first choice for a first name is Matthew. I like it but am less crazy about Matt, which of course is what he will be called. It is ok, I just don’t LOVE it, as I did the names Thomas and William. Also, I am not sure about what sounds better: Matthew Robert or Matthew Jesse.

Other names I am throwing out there are Peter, Samuel, Andrew ( I really like the name Andrew and I like the nickname Drew better than Andy but is this confusing for a kid when they hit school, when what they are called and their real name don’t even start with the same letter?) and Benjamin. I am open to more suggestions!

Well, hm. I see what you mean! On one hand, I like the idea of the kids each having their own names. But as you’ve pointed out, they all have family names already—and I like THAT, too. In fact, I LOVE family names.

As I think on it, I think what I don’t like is when one child is named, say, Kaylie Amelia, and the next child is named Amelia Rianne. That gives me the feeling that the parents had two names they liked, and that the first girl got the first- and second-choice names, and the second girl only got the second-choice name. But what you’re doing solves that issue, and the fairness/evenness of it greatly appeals to me.

I think you could say that your third son was named after his grandfathers, but not call it “and after his brothers.” You could just be reusing the same family names, if you see what I mean, rather than making it as if the brothers are also his namesakes.

I also think middle names are rarely-seen creatures, and that in your case the round-robin aspect makes it less yours/mine and more ours. The only issue that would still niggle at me would be if each of your first two sons still had one name that was his own, and only your third son shared both names. But your first son shares both names with his father.

In fact, that gives me a new thought. Looking just at the name-sharing situation within your household, your first son is already sharing both of his names with his father. What if you used Charles for your third son, but then gave him a different middle name? Then your first son shares two names with his father, and your second and third sons share one name with each other. That’s more fair than your first son sharing two names with his father and one name with his brother, your third son sharing one name with his father and one name each with two brothers, and your second son sharing just one name with one brother.

Yes, that’s what I like best. Use your father’s name for the first name (it’s a great name, and great with the sibling names), and give him his own middle name. I like Charles Robert a LOT, and that keeps all the names family names. You could also do Charles Matthew, which gives you and your husband both your first choices.

I will be very, very interested to hear what everyone else thinks about this. If it were me, I’d name the baby Charles Robert or Charles Matthew, depending on what my husband preferred. But what if it were you guys? Would you use Charles William? Would you not use Charles at all? I’m thinking of this as a question not so much of “Which names do you LIKE best?” but of “What do you think of the naming-after situation?” Freestyle in the comment section, but I’m also putting a poll over to the right [poll closed; see below].

[Poll results (204 votes total):
Name him Charles William: 13 votes, roughly 6%
Name him Charles, but give him his own middle name: 67 votes, roughly 33%
Don’t use Charles OR William; make both names different: 124 votes, roughly 61%]