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Baby Girl Smith

J. writes:

We are expecting our second child, a little girl, Christmas day (please. PLEASE. please. come earlier) and would love some name advice. Our son’s name is Wilson (named after my grandfather). Our last name is Smith. We like classic names that are strong or make you think of strong women. We also like a family connection, but also want something that is not too common (we already have the most common last name there is).

My maiden name is Hudson and we are strongly considering it for her name. We like Hudson Kathleen (Kathleen was my grandmother’s name) but I am afraid it is too harsh for a girl and doesn’t go well with Wilson. Other names on our list are: Ayla Grace (Ayla means oak in Hebrew. Oak is a nickname I have for my husband. He is my oak tree–strong and dependable.), Grace Kathleen, and Anna Lee (our mother’s middle names). Anna is quickly leaving the list… Okay, it is pretty much off the list.
My husband loves Ayla. I like it but it sounds similar to our niece’s name Alana (pronounced: A-lane-uh). Grace has always been my favorite name. I think it is the most beautiful name in the world, but it is so common that I don’t know if we should name her that.

Some other names we like are: Charlotte (My husband likes this name more than me. If we went with it we would most likely use the nickname Charlie), Violet and Olivia.

Naming this little one seems harder than I remember. Although, we didn’t actually name our son until we saw him. The original names we had for him (Grant and Scott) just didn’t fit. He came out looking like a wise old soul and naming him Wilson (after my grandfather) just fit. Maybe she will be the same.

So what do you think regarding the names we have? Do you have any other suggestions? Your help is appreciated!!

Smith is such a tricky surname! It rules out the common end of the spectrum (Jane Smith, Elizabeth Smith), but it can make highly unusual names sound comical, like that Monty Python skit about political candidates where it’s like Broomdiddly Rang-Rang Biscuit-Barrel Montgomery…Smith. And because it starts with an S, it blends with first names that end with the S-sound: Grace Smith sounds like Gray Smith; Iris Smith sounds like Ira Smith.

Hudson, for me, is neither classic nor strong woman. Even as a boy’s name, I think it would out-boy the name Wilson. I suggest using it in the middle name slot.

The meaning of Ayla is a good one, but it seems confusing that it reminds you of the nickname you use for your husband. A name that symbolizes someone whose strength and dependability you can count on is perfect for a spousal relationship, less perfect for a parent-child relationship. And without knowing the meaning, I would have put the name Ayla in the same category as names such as Kayla, Jayla, Braelee, etc.—good names, but not classic or strong.

I’m not sure I have a handle on what kind of name you’re looking for: “classic” and “strong woman” doesn’t fit for me with Hudson or Ayla; “not very common” doesn’t fit with Grace or Olivia. And for me, Grace and Violet are more like “gentle woman” names: a charm/virtue and a small flower.

Here are some names that make me think of strong women:

Anastasia
Antonia
Athena
Beatrix
Carmen
Claire
Claudia
Constance
Diana
Eleanor
Elena
Elizabeth
Esther
Fiona
Florence
Francesca
Genevieve
Georgia
Hazel
Iris
Jane
Julia
Louisa
Margaret
Minerva
Naomi
Nora
Penelope
Philippa
Philomena
Rosemary
Simone
Victoria
Wilhelmina
Winifred

This list would vary hugely from person to person: associations are so subjective. I’ve got Diana on the list because it makes me think of the goddess, but someone else might think of Shy Di. I have Julia on my list because of Julia Sugarbaker, but someone else may have never watched Designing Women. And maybe I’m thinking of biblical Esther and someone else is thinking of a frail grandmother, and so on and so on.

It influences me strongly that you think Grace is the most beautiful name in the world. There are two strikes against Grace: it’s commonness (because of the commonness of your surname), and the way the ending S-sound blends with the starting S-sound of your surname. But if your husband feels close to the way you do about the name, I think those issues are minor and my vote would be to use Grace. Wilson and Grace is a WONDERFUL sibling set (the sitcom Will and Grace doesn’t bother me, especially now that it’s over). Grace Hudson Smith would be my top pick, but other options are Grace Kathleen Smith and Grace Charlotte Smith. Kathleen Hudson Smith would be another possibility.

From my own strong-woman list, my favorites are:

Claire Hudson Smith; Wilson and Claire
Claudia Grace Smith; Wilson and Claudia
Eleanor Grace Smith; Wilson and Eleanor
Georgia Grace Smith; Wilson and Georgia
Julia Hudson Smith; Wilson and Julia
Louisa Hudson Smith; Wilson and Louisa
Margaret Grace Smith; Wilson and Margaret
Nora Grace Smith; Wilson and Nora
Rosemary Grace Smith; Wilson and Rosemary

Name update 01-15-2010! J. writes:

Dear Swistle and Readers,

Thank you so much for your feedback!! I can happily report that it was YOUR suggestions that helped us name our daughter… Eleanor Lynn Smith was born on December 20, 2009 at 7:07 pm- weighing 7 pounds 14 ounces and measuring 20.5 inches long. She is just perfect! We call her Nora, Nora Lynn, and Eleanor.

Baby Boy Fitzscribble

Monica writes:

With baby number two due on 12/25 (yes Christmas Day!) we are still searching for a perfect boy’s name. We have a great girl’s name picked out, but no boy’s name. And even though I have a serious favorite name for a boy, the vote is not unanimous (yet). And it has to be a vote of 2-0 you see.

Here are our requirements. Potential names have to sound good in both German and Spanish (Su’s family is German and she and I both speak Spanish).

Our two year old son’s name is Daniel (see, it fit’s our criteria—just try saying it in German or Spanish!)

His middle name is actually a family name that rhymes with “Zorn” and the baby’s will be too.

Our last name is something Irish. Let’s say Fitzscribble (cuz that’s what it looks like anyway when I write it.)

My serious number one pick is the name August.

August (Gus) Zorn Fitzscribble — Danny and Gus

Another name under consideration is:

Lucas Zorn Fitzscribble – Danny and Luke

Swistle and friends, can you help us?

Oh dear, I am always on shaky ground when names have to sound good in other languages. I only know the most basic of basics, such as that LL sounds like Y in Spanish, and W sounds like V in German.

I think Lucas is closer in style to Daniel than August is, but that either one works. The name Angus seems closer to Daniel while still giving the nickname Gus.

Another name that comes to mind is Benjamin. Danny and Ben—sweet! Or Nathan: Danny and Nate. Or Charles: Danny and Charlie. Those all sound like Brothers to me.

Everyone else: Which name do you like better, August or Lucas? I’ll put a poll over to the right. [Poll closed; see results below.] And do you have more name possibilities to suggest?

Poll results (147 votes total):
August (Gus): 52 votes, roughly 35%
Lucas (Luke): 95 votes, roughly 65%

Name update 12-31-2009! Monica writes:

Hi Swistle. Thanks so much for all your the great name suggestions you made, as well as the suggestions that came from commenters. Just wanted to let everyone know that we had our second child, another little boy, on December 17, 2009. We loved watching the polling between the names Gus and Lucas, but in the end we decided to go with one of your suggestions Swistle. We are pleased to introduce our second son, Benjamin who is 8 lbs. 1 oz and 21 inches long. He is a living doll, and the spitting image of 2 year old brother Daniel! Thanks again and Happy New Year!

Middle Name Challenge: Baby Girl Paloma ____ Alamillo

Christine writes:

I am European Caucasian (mostly Italian and Polish) and my husband is Hispanic/Spanish/French. It’s really important to me to pick a name that can be pronounced easily in both Spanish and English. Our last name is difficult enough (it’s pronounced AL-a-mee-oo). Naming our first daughter was easy- Eva (pronounced like Ava) was a name I’ve liked since before I was married, and Juliana is a family name (my husband’s uncle Julian raised him). We also decided on our second daughter’s first name before she was conceived. We decided on Paloma, and we both really really love it. The problem is her middle name. The more I think about it, the more I begin to dislike all our options. I would like to keep the middle name a family name, as that is tradition in my family, but it’s really limiting my choices. Please tell me what you think- I think some of the names are really pretty, but I’m very concerned about the name being “too much” for my side of the family. Here are my options so far:

Paloma Caroline Alamillo
Paloma Carolina Alamillo
Paloma Josephine Alamillo
(these three are among my favorites, although my husband has vetoed these)
Paloma Genevieve Alamillo
Paloma Christina Alamillo
Paloma Marie Alamillo (my middle name, my mom’s name, sounds great, but boring?)
Paloma Mariela Alamillo (version of Marie, but too much?)
Paloma Terese Alamillo
Paloma Pauline Alamillo
Paloma Elizabeth Alamillo
Paloma Sophie Alamillo
Paloma Sophia Alamillo
Paloma Helena Alamillo
Paloma Jeanne Alamillo
Paloma Meredith Alamillo
Paloma Anne Alamillo
Paloma Rose Alamillo

Thank you in advance for your suggestions!

My favorites from your list are:
Paloma Christina
Paloma Marie
Paloma Mariela
Paloma Rose

Christina, Marie, and Rose would all be easier on your family, but Mariela is so beautiful. Marie was a common middle name a generation or two ago, but I get the impression it’s much less common now; Rose is more common in this generation but/and sounds wonderful with Paloma.

What does everyone else think?

Baby Girl Compton

Courtney writes:

Hi!! We are expecting another girl Dec. 15th… Our 4 year old daughter is Berkley Noel…
I wish I could use Noel for this one but dont want to b/c its already our daughters middle name. especially since her birthday will be close to Christmas. Its My middle name as well. OUr last name is Compton and the names on the list are: Raegan, Colbey, Justine, Quinn, Mallory, Helene, Id like to use Christine as the middle after my great, great grandmother. I’d like a nice C name, but it doesnt necessarily have to start with a C at this point!! WE are getting so close and still have no name!!!!! I guess I am trying to come up with something as unusual as our daughter Berkley, ( dont think I could pair it with something like “Allison”
HELP!!

I realize this idea may be a little silly, but since Berkley is similar to a city in California (Berkeley), I got out the atlas and looked for cities in California that start with C and would make good girl names:

Cambria (makes me think of Cambrey or Cambrie)
Ceres (the look of the word also makes me think of Carys)
Claremont (or you could spell it Clairemont)
Cordelia
Creston (it’s almost Kristen)
Cypress
/ atlas as baby name book

Some more unusual C names:
Caledonia
Calista
Calliope
Campbell
Carrington
Catalina
Clarity
Clementine
Cliona
Clover
Colette
Connolly
Cressida
Cricket

More suggestions for the Comptons—starting with C or not?

Baby Girl Acosta

Megan writes:

We are due with our first baby, a girl, on Christmas Eve and have not found that perfect name. We like classic, slightly old-fashioned names, nothing too preppy. Our last name is Acosta (pronounced with a long “o”) so we are eliminating names with a long “a” ending. Tops on our list right now is Evelyn. It sounds soft and feminine and has cute nicknames like Eve and Evie. I really like it but I’m not sure it’s perfect. Other names on the short list are Ivy, Sadie, Josephine, Lucy, Penny, and Hazel. I like the rhythm of the long “e” sound with our last name. Other names we really like but are a bit too expected are names like Grace, Emma, and Kate. I’m hoping you can suggest a few more names and one will strike that perfect chord.

I suggest Genevieve. It has the Eve/Evie nicknames you like (and also Gen and Genny if you want them), it has the long E sound you like, and I like it with your surname: Genevieve Acosta.

My second suggestion is Penelope. It gives you Penny as a nickname (and also Nellie if you want it), it has the long E sound, and I like the repeating long O sound with your surname: Penelope Acosta.

If you like Grace but it’s too common for you to want to use it, you could use Gracelyn. Gracelyn Acosta.

You could do the same thing with Emma: Emmalyn Acosta. Or Emlyn: Emlyn Acosta.

I know the name Emily is common but I don’t care, I love it—and in my area, it’s not used much. Emily Acosta.

A name with the flavor of Emily but much less common is Felicity: Felicity Acosta.

This one has no tie-in, I just thought of it: Jillian Acosta.

One of my own favorites is Annabel: Annabel Acosta.

Sadie and Penny make me think of Molly: Molly Acosta.

I have a soft spot for the name Noelle used at Christmastime: Noelle Acosta. I like it as a middle name if not as a first: Genevieve Noelle Acosta, Felicity Noelle Acosta, etc.

More suggestions for the Acostas?

Name update! Megan writes:

We named her Evelyn Marie, born 12/14/09! She goes by Ev and Evie a lot too. Thanks so much for your help back then, it was very encouraging to hear positive feedback on our “vintage” name choice!

Baby Boy F., Brother to Chloe

Jenelle writes:

I am due December 12th with our second child, a boy and we are having the hardest time deciding on a boys name. We have actually been trying to choose a boys name since we had our daughter 4 years ago and with only a couple weeks to go, we aren’t getting any closer to a decision.

We do know that:

– His mIddle name will be David, after my husband.

– Our last name is one syllable and also the name of a major US car manufacturer.

– Our daughters name is Chloe, which was in the 30’s the year she was born, but is now in the top 10 (where we live in Canada). Not crazy about that, but we expected it. We would like to avoid a top 20 name if possible.

– If this baby had been a girl, her name would have been Lila, Elise or Cora.

Two names we do like, but aren’t sure about:

Nolan – My husband and daughter are both in love with this name, but I don’t know. I like that it is not super popular here and that the only Nolan we know is 14, but it feels a little blah to me.

Eli – I am very drawn to this name. I don’t think DH loves it though. It wouldn’t be Elias, Elijah or Elliot though, just Eli.

Names we really liked, but have vetoed for various reasons:

Wesley – I love it, my husband hates it

Liam – Top 10 name where we live

Levi – 2 brand names?

Grayson – getting too popular, I don’t like how it is being used for girls now (Gracyn)

Owen – way too popular in our area

Evan, Tate, Lucas – Close friends children

Max, Wyatt, Caleb , Asher – just don’t seem right

James, Matthew, Joshua, Alexander, Andrew- names of our 30 year old friends and still in the top 20 here.

Names we cannot use because of our last name:

Carter

Carson

Lincoln

Chase

Parker

Harrison

Henry

I would really appreciate any help that you and your readers could provide! Thank you!

 
How about Oliver Frederick? I’m half-kidding because I just posted about it a few minutes ago, but I think Oliver David would be great. Chloe and Oliver.

The names Greyson and Nolan make me think of the name Gavin. Chloe and Gavin. Gavin David. I like it!

Or Garrett/Gerrit. (I prefer the latter spelling, but I think the former is easier.) Chloe and Garrett. Garrett David.

Liam and Nolan make me think of Simon. Chloe and Simon. Simon David. My favorite so far.

Owen and Levi and Eli and Evan make me think of Ian. Chloe and Ian. Ian David. My second favorite.

Let’s have a poll over to the right [poll closed; see results below], and more suggestions in the comments section.

Poll results (168 votes total):
Oliver: 50 votes, roughly 30%
Gavin: 37 votes, roughly 22%
Garrett: 9 votes, roughly 5%
Simon: 51 votes, roughly 30%
Ian: 21 votes, roughly 13%

Oliver Frederick

I had a dream Sunday night that I was in the hospital, in labor, expecting a baby boy, and that I just realized we hadn’t chosen a name. AHA HA HA HA HA!! AS IF! The pregnancy test stick is not even COOL before I’m making name lists! But anyway, that was the dream.

So I was thinking over possibilities. Would we use the name Oliver now, since our cat Oliver has died and the cat was the only thing stopping us from using the name last time? Would we use Frederick? But that would mean repeating an initial, and although I’m WILLING to do that for a name I MUST HAVE, I’d PREFER not to. Plus, my parents dislike the name Frederick.

So then, in the dream hospital, I thought of putting Frederick in the middle-name slot to eliminate the problems with it, and I came up with Oliver Frederick, and I like it enough that it’s making me feel a little woeful that I WON’T have another boy to name, and so I am hoping to persuade one of YOU to use it.

Baby Boy Kench

Gayle writes:

My husband and I need help choosing a name for our first son. We already have two little girls, Avis Abigale and Melody Alice Elvira. (Melody has two middle names just for fun.. no specific reason.) That really is sort of our naming style – we find a name we like and we use it. All the in depth stuff, like meanings, or initials, or family approval, or naming after a family member, etc, isn’t that important to us.

We want our sons name to be as distinct as the names Avis and Melody. For example, Avis, Melody, and Jayden/Cayden/Grayden/Hayden is not the kind of name we’re looking for. We really like more turn of the century names, but not names like Henry or William. More outlandish names like Cornelius or Augustus (although we’ve vetoed both of those.)

Here are some names we’ve considered, to give you an idea of the names we’re looking at:
Cornelius, Augustus, Benedict, Clement, Barnabas, Eustace, Florian, and Percival.

As you can see, these names are pretty ‘out there.’ We feel like they really aren’t names you can wear in the 21st century without getting made fun of. They sound like characters.

So we’re looking for names similar in style to these, that go with our daughters names, but that could work for a little boy in the 21st century, not just the 19th. Also, we’d really like his middle name to start with an A, because my husband and I both have middle names that start with an A, and completely by accident, so do our daughters. So we liked that unexpected connection and want to continue it.

Oh, and our last name is one syllable and rhymes with Kench, so longer first names would go better with that, I think.

I think you could use Augustus pretty comfortably, especially if he went by the nickname Gus. Avis, Melody, and Augustus seems good to me. If it seems like too much, maybe August? Avis, Melody, and August.

Cornelius makes me think of Corbin and Cormac. Benedict makes me think of Bennett. Eustace makes me think of Edmund and Euan/Ewan. Florian makes me think of Finian and Julian.

But some of the names I’m reminded of are a big style change from the originals. In STYLE, I’m reminded more of names such as Julius, Rufus, Felix, Hugo, Jasper, Lucius, Phineas.

Well, here’s the list all together:

Aidric; Avis, Melody, and Aidric
Angus; Avis, Melody, and Angus
August; Avis, Melody, and August
Bennett; Avis, Melody, and Bennett
Corbin; Avis, Melody, and Corbin
Cormac; Avis, Melody, and Cormac
Edmund; Avis, Melody, and Edmund
Ewan; Avis, Melody, and Ewan
Felix; Avis, Melody, and Felix
Finian; Avis, Melody, and Finian
Hugo; Avis, Melody, and Hugo
Jasper; Avis, Melody, and Jasper
Julian; Avis, Melody, and Julian
Julius; Avis, Melody, and Julius
Linus; Avis, Melody, and Linus
Lucius; Avis, Melody, and Lucius
Phineas; Avis, Melody, and Phineas
Rufus; Avis, Melody, and Rufus
Sebastian; Avis, Melody, and Sebastian
Silas; Avis, Melody, and Silas

I think my favorites are Aidric, Edmund, Felix, Hugo, and Jasper. With some A middle names:

Aidric Alistair Kench
Edmund Ambrose Kench
Felix Arlo Kench
Hugo Augustus Kench
Jasper Atticus Kench

Name update 12-10-2009! Gayle writes:

Hi Swistle,
thanks so much for all your help (and for the people who posted, also)
Our son was born on Nov 28th at 5:02 PM (yum, a hospital Thanksgiving!) and we went with Leander Aidric – we loved your suggestion of that name.
Again, thanks so much!

Baby Naming Issue: Someone Just Used the Baby Name You Had in Mind

Delia writes:

I have a question that I am sure you have come across many times before, but I would like to hear your thoughts / your readers thoughts on it. It has to do with naming a child with the same name as one used in your social circle (or close to it). DH & I have been together for 5 years and recently decided to start trying for a baby. In our 1st year together we talked about kids and we decided back then already that if we have a son, we would call him Ethan – we both love the name, it sound good with our surname and it just felt (and still does feel) ‘right’. Fast forward to the present and we found out today that some colleagues/ friends that had a baby boy last week have named him Ethan. Now, sure, it’s not like we had a claim staked on the name and we didn’t advertise the fact that we had chosen that particular name, but it feels like if we were to now name our child the same it would be kind of odd, even be seen to be ‘copying’ them. That being said, we are not as close with this couple or other friends of theirs that we also used to socialize with as we once were and speak to or hang out with them outside of work (we all work at the same company). I am of the opinion that if we aren’t that close then it shouldn’t matter, but DH feels the name should be up for review. Should we just abandon the idea of using Ethan and go back to the drawing board, or should we stick with it even if their is a bit of the weirdness factor thrown in?

In your case, I’d say it’s pretty clear you can go right ahead and use the name. Ethan is a fairly common name, and at the very earliest the boys will be nearly a year apart, so I don’t think anyone will make a connection as they might if the name in question were Edgar. If you feel a little awk, you can spread The Story of His Name: every time you tell what his name is, you can say that when you and your husband were in your first year of marriage, before you even knew when you would have a baby, you decided on Ethan as your boy name. Tell this story with stars in your eyes, and everything’s fine: you’ve made it clear that your choice has nothing to do with anyone else’s choice.

Any tips from the rest of you? Have you been in this situation, and what did you do?

Baby Girl Kempt

Nathasa writes:

I’m writing you for baby advice! I’m due on November 26th (Thanksgiving baby!) with my third child and second daughter. My husband and I have two other children; Joanna Aisbet and Henry Fraser. We pretty much had our list of names narrowed down about four months ago, to either Catherine, Caroline, Rebecca, Grace, or Alice. But about a month ago I suddenly discovered Gaelic names, and I’m in love with them.

So now my number one choice is Niamh (pronounced “Neeve”), with Siobhan (“Shuh-von”) and Aoife (“Eef-uh”) close behind. My husband loves the name Niamh and is totally for it. So here are my issues.

First of all, neither my husband nor I have a drop of Irish blood in us. Is that totally weird to use an Irish name? My family certainly thinks so. Both of our mothers are campaigning for one of the original five, and neither my mother nor my mother in law, (or any of my other family for that matter) likes Niamh whatsoever. Both of our parents are very involved in our childrens lives, so this is a factor for me.

Secondly, of course, we live in Maryland, not Dublin. I know that if we choose Niamh, she will have to constantly be spelling and pronouncing her name for people. I had to do that all my life (My name is Nathasa, with no “h” after the “s”, and the first “h” silent), and it wasn’t much fun.

Third, I don’t know if it really works with Joanna and Henry. When I say it out loud, it sounds nice. “Joe-ann-uh, Hen-ree, and Neev”. But that’s just me. I really don’t know if it does. Also, our last name is one syllable: Kempt (Kem-t). It sounds fine with two syllabled Joanna and Henry, but I don’t know if it really flows with one syllabled Niamh.

It seems like there are way more strikes against Niamh than for it, and we should just go back to the other finalists we’d originally picked, but we keep coming back to Niamh. We both love it, and none of the other names seems just right.

But I’m worried, with so many things not going for the name. What do you think? I’d love people’s insight – I’m really stressing.

And if not Niamh, then any other suggestions? Also, we haven’t even begun to think of a middle name, and off the top of my head, nothing sounds good with Niamh (another strike, UGH!). We don’t want it to be an Irish name, but no American names really work, that I can think of.

Please help!

Thank you so, so much.

I think that if you both love Niamh, and if you keep coming back to it despite being aware of the various issues, and if no other name seems right, that you should use it. And definitely it seems as if your parents shouldn’t make a peep after using the name Nathasa in their own baby-naming days.

Would you like the name as much if it were spelled differently? Because you could spell it Neeve or Nieve or Neve and take that issue off your list. It’s common for a name from one country to be spelled or pronounced differently when used in another country: we say Wilhelmina with a W sound even though in German it’s a V sound; the name Kieran is Irish, but in Ireland it’s Ciarán; and we use Owen instead of Eoghan. It’s a matter of translating a name from one alphabet/language to another, so that it can be spelled and pronounced.

If you do use it, several of your other options would make nice middle names: Neeve Caroline Kempt, Nieve Rebecca Kempt, Neve Catherine Kempt.

Another option is to use Niamh as the middle name, eliminating pretty much ALL the problems—well, except the one where you like the name Niamh better than all the other options. I like it best with Rebecca: Rebecca Niamh Kempt. It’s good with Caroline and Catherine, too, except that the N sounds blur together a little—not a dealbreaker, I wouldn’t think, considering how infrequently it would cause a problem.

What does everyone else think? Use Niamh or not? Spell it the Irish way or the English way? First name or middle name, and what combination?