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Baby Girl Marsh, Sister to Owen and Eli

Katie writes:

My husband and I are expecting our third child on 9/22/11, although I have a history of early labor and delivery. We have two sons together Owen Samuel (age 4) and Eli Benjamin (age 17 months), and I am thrilled we are finally expecting a little girl! The pregnancy has been fairly easy so far, but the hardest part has been picking out this little girl’s name.

When it came to our sons names, we both agreed on the names fairly easily with little compromise. Owen’s middle name Samuel is my husband’s middle name and Eli’s middle name is my father’s name. With our little girl, we would love to have a virtue middle name, more specifically Grace, but it is not a necessity.

The one girl name that my husband and I loved before we had children was Ella. The problem is that we now have an Eli and the names are way to similar for our comfort. We want our little girl to have her own identity in our family.

Our short list of girl names are:
Stella- our compromise to the Ella problem, but it doesn’t feel like the perfect name and I don’t know if this is the compromise I want to make.

Mia- our front runner at the moment, but once again it does not feel like the one. Also it’s rising in popularity, the name just doesn’t feel complete, and the alliteration with our last name seems to bother my husband

Savannah- although I love this name and my husband seems to like it too, we both feel that it doesn’t seem to go with our son’s names.

Halle- a new name that I found while reading an online article and I love it, but my husband isn’t as sold. He thinks it will be constantly mispronounced as hay-lee instead of hal-ee.

Addison- a name we both just like, but don’t feel like its our baby girl’s name.

Just for reference, if this baby would have been a boy, his name would have probably been Caleb Jackson or Luke Alexander. Please help us! We are running out of time, patience and we are tired of Owen and Eli referring to their little sister as “Baby.”

Stella Marsh is a terrific name, but I can see how if what you wanted was Ella, the name Stella might be too different in sound and style.

Willa is probably my top choice for you. It has the sweetness and gentleness of Ella, but without the part that makes it too close to Eli. Willa Marsh; Owen, Eli, and Willa.

Or perhaps Clara is my top choice: it has the sweet and gentle, it has the L and the -a, but it’s not too similar to either sibling name. Clara Marsh; Owen, Eli, and Clara.

Sadie is not quite the same style as Ella (sassier, I think), but I love it so much with the surname and the brother names. Sadie Marsh; Owen, Eli, and Sadie. And I like the repeating long-A sound if you use Grace as the middle name; it seems like it would be very pleasing to call her “Sadie Grace.”

Molly, too, has sweetness (and a double L) but it won’t work if your husband doesn’t like alliteration. Molly Marsh; Owen, Eli, and Molly.

Savannah makes me wonder if you’d like the name Anna. I recently read a novel that made me PINE for the name Anna Hope. They called her Anna Hope (that is, instead of calling her just Anna while the Hope disappeared into Middlenameville), and I couldn’t believe how quickly it grew on me. I had a mini-crisis over the idea of never getting to use such a great name myself. Anna Marsh; Owen, Eli, and Anna.

Or the name Annabella would give you the -ella at the end—sort of a combination of Savannah and Ella. Annabella Marsh; Owen, Eli, and Annabella. If that seems too long and frilled for the brother names, Annabel would be very nice. Annabel Marsh; Owen, Eli, and Annabel.

Speaking of names from novels, now I’m reading another book with a Nell. I wouldn’t have thought that was a name I felt one way or another about, but I like it quite a bit in the book, and it has the -ell from Ella. Nell (Nellie) Marsh; Owen, Eli, and Nell.

Calla might work. Yes, I like it, and I like the nickname Callie, too. Calla (Callie) Marsh; Owen, Eli, and Calla.

If you like Mia but it doesn’t seem like enough name, I’ve heard it used as a nickname for Amelia. Amelia Marsh; Owen, Eli, and Amelia. It bothers me a little bit that the name Eli is in the name Amelia—but it’s pronounced differently, so it’s not likely anything anyone would notice except to say “Oh, cool!”

There’s also Mila or Mina or Mira, all of which have pronunciation issues that might be worth the hassle to add substance to the name (Mia has a couple of pronunciations, too).

If pronunciation issues are the main problem with Halle, I’ve seen it spelled Hallie. Although perhaps that would look like a creative spelling of Haley and would make things even worse. Hm.

Out of nowhere: I wonder if you’d like Delaney. Delaney Marsh; Owen, Eli, and Delaney.

Name update! Katie writes:

So sorry this is coming to late (and so long!), but with a newborn, a kindergartner, and a little boy who has hit his terrible-twos, things have been a little hectic in the Marsh household. Our baby girl decided to grace us with her presence slightly earlier than expected on August 15th, 2011 and her first 26 days of life were spent in the NICU due to a bacterial infection. She is home now, safe and sound, but due to her early surprise, we were unprepared on her name to say the least. When she was 4 days old, my husband and I finally sat down to figure a name out for our little miracle. Just days before she was born, we finally eliminated Ella/Stella from our list because we knew it just didn’t sit well with us, compromising on a name we loved. We came to your website and we waffled back and forth between Molly, Sadie and Delaney. Each name sounded great with the middle name choice “Grace”, but we were stumped. After another day, we eliminated Delaney because that was our least favorite of the three names. I loved Sadie, my husband loved Molly, and we were stuck, but ultimately, my husband ended up adjusting to Sadie and so our miracle preemie daughter became Sadie Grace Marsh. Thank you so much for the help Swistle! We couldn’t have done it without you!

Baby Name to Consider: Cozette

A. writes:

My husband and I are considering Cozette for a girl’s name. It’s not on the social security website and I’m very curious (worried) as to how people will respond to this name. Any feedback?

Thanks!

According to the Social Security Administration, 17 baby girls were named Cozette in 2010. Another 58 were named Cosette.

For me, the nickname Cozy is a negative—but there’s no reason it should be, since it’s a perfectly pleasant word.

Let’s have a poll over to the right: what do you think of the name Cozette? [Poll closed; see results below.]

Poll results (342 votes total):
I love it! I’d use it! – 17 votes (5%)
I like it! I’d consider it! – 35 votes (10%)
I like it for someone else’s child – 93 votes (27%)
No particular opinion either way – 25 votes (7%)
Slight dislike – 117 votes (34%)
Strong dislike – 55 votes (16%)

Baby Naming Issue: The Pronunciation of Emmaline

Amanda writes:

We are due in the next week or so with our second child, gender unknown, and I’ve just discovered I’ve been pronouncing one of our finalist names wrong this whole time! Our frontrunner for a girl has been Emmaline. I’ve only ever seen it written, and in my head, the ending rhymes with ‘teen’. But I just looked it up in the Baby Name Wizard and found out that it officially rhymes with ‘twine’ which I don’t like nearly as much. I had really liked the nickname options of both Emma and Lena. Is my way a legitimate alternative, or have I just made something up? Would I be dooming my child to a life of constant corrections? Our other choice for a girl is Norah. The middle name will almost certainly be Imogen. Our last name is pronounced De-FLOR-ee-o, and our older son’s name is Wy@tt.

I was finally feeling prepared, and now the fretting starts anew. Arrgh!

 
First I found the pronunciation on Forvo, where two readers pronounce it EmmaLEEN and one pronounces it EmmaLINE.

Then I found a preference/opinion discussion on Nameberry, where a couple of people say that the French pronunciation is EmmaLEEN, and where other people say it can be pronounced either way or even a third way (EmmaLIN).

Then I found a million other message boards that had the same basic content: people claiming to have ONLY ever heard it a certain way while other people insincere-LOL-ingly claimed to have NEVER heard it that way; lots of people claiming to be personally acquainted with three babies with that name when I suspect they are only trying to bolster their personal opinion with invented evidence; lots of people stating preferences but very little discussion of what is correct/legitimate.

Message boards give me a headache, but I think the consensus here is that EmmaLEEN is considered a legitimate way to pronounce it, and that no matter which way you chose to pronounce it you’d have some people pronouncing it wrong. I think I would come up with a standard correction ahead of time—something like, “Oh, no—it’s EmmalEEn, like Emily,” or “It’s EmmalEEn, like Pauline or Christine.”

If you want to make the pronunciation more clear, there’s also the option of altering the spelling. Emmaline is already spelled a ton of different ways (Emeline, Emmeline, Emaline), and none of the spellings are common enough to seem like a “main spelling.” Emmalene (like Irene and Arlene), Emmaleen (like Colleen and Kathleen), or Emmalena (to make it clearly a blend name) would all work, I think.

 

 

Name update! Amanda writes:

Thank you so much for all your help with our naming problem. All the comments really helped us make the final decision, and the work was not in vain! Despite the majority of friends and family predicting another boy, Emmaline Imogen arrived in the early hours of August 8, weighing in at a quite respectable 8lbs 12oz. We were keeping our name options top secret until she got here, and the reactions have all been very positive so far.

Thanks again!

Emmaline

Baby Boy Kaufman

Bethany writes:

Hello! My husband, Scott and I are expecting our first baby, due October 13th! We found out that we are having a boy and are very excited! The only problem is coming up with a wonderful name that we both like and know he will love as well. My husband and I both want his name to be cute and fun for when he is a little baby and boy and something that transitions to masculine when he is adult. I LOVE LOVE LOVE all old fashioned 50’s names for boys, but my husband is not as keen on them as I am. I loved the names “Graham”, “Reid” and “Grady” but my husband hates all of them. He says they are not “manly” enough. We did however come to an agreement on two names…. “Jack” and “Oliver.” I really wanted to name him Jack after my grandpa who I was deeply close with, who passed away a few years ago. My grandpa’s name was actually John, but everyone called him Jack. However, my sister also recently had a baby boy, born July 12th and they decided to name him Elliott Jack. They used the name Jack as a middle name because her husband’s father’s name was Jack, but now I feel like I can not use it since she did. I also feel she might be offended if I use Jack and we really do not want to step on anyone’s toes. So that leaves us with the name “Oliver” which we both love! However…we have had several people express how much they hate it. We have decided to use “Jonah” as the middle name, because we both like that name and feel it flows nicely. The naysayers who do not like the name (including my own dad) say he will be called “OJ” (which I hate) and “Ollie” (which I don’t really care for but my husband LOVES!) I know if we name him Oliver, my husband Scott is going to call him “Ollie” all of the time.

I should explain how the name Oliver came up as a suggestion as well. For the first 5 months of my pregnancy I was incredibly sick with “morning – all day” sickness. I would see everything I ate again… it was awful. But, for some weird reason the only thing that I always wanted that made me feel better instantly was to eat Green Olives. I eat about a half a jar of green olives everyday! My husband joked that all of the Olives would turn the baby into an Oliver (I thought for sure I was having a girl) and apparently they did because we are having a BOY! Well… the name sort of stuck and now we are in a bind since a lot of friends and family are not on board. We would love any suggestions you would have for us! It’s less than three months away now, and I would love to have his name settled for sure! Please help us!!

Thank you so much!!

P.S. I should also tell you that we have an English Bulldog named Ruby.

There are two basic and widely-experienced issues here: the sister-used-the-name issue, and the some-people-hate-the-name issue.

I think you should talk to your sister. My own temperament wouldn’t stretch to asking her outright if she’d mind if you used the name Jack, so I won’t suggest the direct approach to you either, but you could raise the subject casually and then gauge her reaction. Like, bring up the subject of baby names, mention a few names you’re considering, and then say, “We were thinking of Jack, after grandpa…” and see if she startles or if her eyebrows go mad-shaped or if she says “But WE used Jack!” And then if necessary you can back down quickly (“But then you used it, so THAT’S out! Ha ha! Obviously! Ahem!”) and be no worse off than you are now. Or maybe she will say, “Ohhhhh, how sweet!” or “You totally should!,” and then think how happy you’ll be.

For one thing, she used it as a middle name, and the middle name is just not the same as the first name: people don’t tend to feel as possessive about it, and it’s much more common to have duplications—especially in an extended family where a bunch of people might want to honor the same ancestor. For another thing, she was honoring her father-in-law, perhaps mostly because it was something her husband wanted to do, whereas you’d be honoring your grandfather. It would be hard to argue that once one person has been honored, no one else with that same name may be honored, not even someone from a completely different family. But if she DOES in fact argue that very thing, at least you know for sure she feels that way, instead of possibly giving up the name for nothing.

Or, you could use John. It’s definitely not as satisfying as using the nickname your grandfather mostly went by, but it WAS his given name, and you’ll know it’s “after grandpa.” And it may be better than not getting to name a child after him at all. And John Kaufman has a wonderful sound.

As for people hating the name, it is a sad thing about baby-naming that EVERY SINGLE NAME has some people who hate it. EVERY name. There are no exceptions: the name you give this baby WILL be hated by some people. This doesn’t mean I’m in the “Screw what everyone else thinks, it’s MY choice!!” camp—far from it. I can easily empathize with their desire to love the name of an important baby in their lives—and I can easily picture how I’d feel if the name of an important baby in my life was one from my “Ug, I can’t STAND that name!” list. But because every name will be hated by some people, it depends on things such as WHO hates the name, and HOW MANY of them there are, and WHY they hate the name, and how likely they are to come around to it with time, and how likely they are to hate ANY name I like. People from other generations classically dislike the names the current generation of parents is using: their complaints are typically that a name is weird, or that it’s old-personish. (We will likely feel the same about the names of our grandchildren, although it helps that we are keeping our baby-name muscles exercised here.) And sometimes people just have completely different naming styles: perhaps you don’t like the names they used for THEIR children, either—and yet they still used those names, perhaps without consulting everyone first.

In the case of your nay-sayers, it sounds like their primary objection is the initials with the chosen middle name. Is this something you could fix without stress? If your reasons for using it are just that you like the name and it flows nicely, are you willing to save that name for a possible future child, and find another name you like equally well that flows nicely but doesn’t start with J? This might not stop the objections, of course: sometimes people who don’t like a name come up with “legitimate reasons” for not liking it—but if those reasons were removed, they still wouldn’t like it. But it’s worth a try, if it’s something you’d be willing to do. There are lots of two-syllable names with a similar flow:

Oliver Eli Kaufman
Oliver Ezra Kaufman
Oliver Henry Kaufman
Oliver Leo Kaufman
Oliver Levi Kaufman
Oliver Matthew Kaufman
Oliver Micah Kaufman
Oliver Noah Kaufman
Oliver Phillip Kaufman
Oliver Riley Kaufman

Or it’s a great place for a name one of you likes that the other one likes okay but doesn’t want to use as a first name. Oliver Grady Kaufman, for example. Or it’s a good place for a family name: perhaps Oliver Scott Kaufman.

Another thing to keep in mind is that people tend to come around to a name even if they disliked it at first. In fact, it’s common for them to say later on things such as “When I first heard the name, I HATED it! *merry laugh of how hilarious this is now that they love it*” and “What are you talking about? I ALWAYS loved that name!” Once an actual little sweetie-biscuit is on the scene, the name has an entirely different feel to it. (In fact, you might find you end up loving the nickname Ollie: we’ve had commenters mention on nickname-related posts that they’ve completely changed their point of view on a nickname they thought they couldn’t stand, once the child was born and turned out to be Exactly Right for that nickname.)

It sounds like you have several really good reasons for using the name Oliver. I think at this point it’s a matter of whether you think your dad and the others will get over it, and/or how important it is to you to have unanimous agreement in your circle about your child’s name. If you decide to use Oliver, I’d suggest saying to your dad (and to others) gently and with a touch of affectionate humor that you just want to give him the heads-up that you’re planning to use the name he doesn’t like, so he should start bracing himself for that. And perhaps you can soothe him with a different middle name (perhaps HIS name would work?).

Also, I have one name suggestion: if you like Graham and Grady and Reid, I wonder if Grant would be manly enough for your husband.

Baby Boy or Girl Wibbly

C. writes:

I’m freaking out! My husband and I are expecting our first child in 4 days and I am way more anxious and stressed about naming this baby than I am about the whole labor process. Its such a big responsibility and we desparately need your help!!!!

We’ve been making lists of names now, since we found out we were expecting, but cannot come up with first/middle name combinations that fit with our last name. Our last name is pronounced Wibbly, which definitely rules out many of my favorite names (Rylee, Hadley, Kingsley), since I don’t want our child to have rhyming first and last names. Also, we’ve made the mistake of sharing our favorite names with opinionated family members… we were settled on Ayla if we have a girl, until a family member told me “it sounds like alien.” Now I’m having second thoughts, although my husband and I both still like it alot…

I don’t know if we have a particular style, but I seem to like names that start with vowels or soft sounds, and prefer names that are less common…

So, here’s what we have so far:

Boys:

Isaiah – I love Isaiah and its growing on hubby who initially said it was too old-fashioned and biblical…. So, we would like a newer trendier middle name (I like Dax, Jax, or Finn, but hubby is not so keen). I wonder if you would have any other suggestions?

Everett – I like this a lot too, but need suggestions for middle names…

Sawyer

Declan

Kingsley – too rhymey

Aidan – My old favorite, but now we have several aquaintances who have used it

Jackson/Oliver – I love the idea of shortening to Jax/Oly, but just too popular for me now

Girls:

Ayla Reese

Ayla Jean – Jean is after my grandmother, but I think this combo is too old fashioned for me… I worry that it sounds a little Hillbilly when pronounced with a Southern accent… I would love to hear yours and your readers opinions…

Aubrey Jean

Selah Jean

Selah Reese

Ayla Brielle

Rylee – husband’s favorite, but I think too rhymey with our last name

Hadley – again too rhymey

Thanks so much for your help!!!

PS We are feeling most stuck with boys names. So, if you are only able to help with one or the other, we would really appreciate help with our boys names. Thanks again!

There are several tools I think might be useful here:

1. The Social Security baby name website. Oliver is too popular for you—but your frontrunner Isaiah is even more common (#45 in 2010, versus Oliver’s #88). However, Oliver’s popularity is increasing while Isaiah’s is holding steady, and that’s a consideration too. Rylee is #102, but it’s #14 when combined with the spellings Rylie and Riley and Ryleigh. This is the sort of thing the site is great for: you can see where a name is, and you can also get an idea for where it’s going.

2. Choosing Between Two Finalists. You have more than two finalists, but I think these exercises can be very helpful for narrowing a list down.

3. This post, in which I give the advice I give all first-time parents, which is to see if you can figure out what your naming style is BEFORE you name the first baby (is it more Isaiah/Everett, or more Sawyer/Kingsley?), and to look through your lists for names where you could only use one of them (for example, Ayla and Selah: using one will eliminate the other, so make sure you’re choosing the one you like most) or names that wouldn’t make good sibling names later (would any of the name candidates pair poorly with any of the names you might like to use for siblings later on?).

I think Isaiah Wibbly is a great name. For the middle name slot, do you have any family names you’d like to use? Or any names that commemorate other things that are special to you (places, authors/characters, artists, schools)? Since you’re keener on Isaiah than your husband is, are there any names he liked that had to be eliminated for other reasons but could still be used in the middle name position?

You might also like Josiah, which comes with the nickname Joe if you want it—although perhaps Joe Wibbly is a little close to Bo Diddley.

Eli is nice, or Levi, or Ezra, or Asher.

For Everett, I like middle names that might be too common to suit your style: Everett John Wibbly, Everett James Wibbley, Everett Jack Wibbly. Or Everett Reid is less common. (I like Reid with Isaiah, too.)

Everett makes me think of Elliot and Everest.

If you like Kingsley except for the ending, Kingston might work for you.

I like Ayla Jean very much. The name Ayla is similar to Kayla; adding Reese as a middle name increases that similarity, and using Jean decreases it. The “alien” thing doesn’t bother me, but I know how these “helpful comments” from family/friends can really wreck a name. Paul and I were considering a pair of names for our twins, and a friend said “Oh, I love them! They sound just like characters from a romance novel!” …Oh. *names fizzle right before my eyes*

I worry that you’ll be unhappy with the popularity of Ayla over time. Right now it’s way down in the 300s, but the sounds in it are so current: Kayla and Haley and Lila and Ava and Bella rolled into one. I suspect it will either increase in popularity dramatically—or, more likely, just FEEL more popular because of all the similar names.

My favorite is Aubrey, but I don’t like the bree/blee combination with the surname. The name Audrey eliminates the B, but still is a little rhymey.

Since the -lee/-lie/-ly endings (and some of the -ee/-ie/-y endings) have been nixed by the surname, I think -lyn and -anna and -ella endings might work well, or -ra or -is or -er. If Rylee is a favorite, do you like Rianna? Rilyn? Raelyn? If Hadley is too rhymey: Hadlyn or Hayden or Adelyn. Aylyn would be even MORE like alien, but Kaylin/Caelyn/Braelyn/Ashlyn are less, or maybe Avelyn or Ariella or Sierra or Iris or Aida.

Name update! C. writes:

So, I am way late sending in an update. My baby is already 3 months old! We named him Isaiah Steven. Thank you for all of your help, I was so happy to have such positive feedback on the name Isaiah, which had always been my first choice. And, Steven is after his Daddy, which we hadn’t seriously considered until you suggested choosing a name with meaning behind it. Thanks again, we are very happy with his name!!!

Baby Boy Smith, Brother to Declan River

Natalie writes:

My husband Aaron and I are expecting our second son on October 19, 2011… Which may seem far in the future, but when you have absolutely no idea what his name will be, the due date seems all too soon!

Big brother is Declan River. We settled on his name easily, but it was a total one-off; literally the ONLY name in the baby name book that we both loved.

My style for boys is kind of uncommon/old-fashioned/quirky, with a few surnames thrown in – Leo, Dashiell, Gideon, Sullivan, Beckett, and Jasper are all favorites that my husband has nixed. Aaron’s favorites all seem to come from three categories: Irish/Celtic (Keegan, Angus, Tiernan), uber-masculine (Hunter, Gunnar, Stone, Magnus) or extremely popular (Aidan, Noah, Liam).

With Smith as the surname, one of my top priorities is staying away from anything too common. I’d rather not use anything distinctly Irish, since we already have a Declan – it’s not the direction I want our set going. We want one more after this baby (three total) and I don’t want to be stuck in a rut. And the uber-masculine names just don’t appeal to me. At all.

We have agreed on a few names, but he always retracts his agreement within a few days, for one reason or another. This is (was) our short list, all of which are now crossed out:

Archer – Definitely our top name, but is now nixed due to Aaron’s fear of the nickname “Archie.”
Jonah – My second choice, Aaron liked it for a day, then claimed “it’s too soft.”
Finn – I was iffy on this one due to both popularity and the flow with a 1-syllable surname
Hudson – Just doesn’t feel “right” to my hubby, I can’t decide if it’s too trendy
Holden – Same as Hudson

At 25 weeks pregnant, we’re left with nothing. This would have been much easier if he were a girl, as our styles have more overlap – Annabelle, Georgia, Lila, Violet, and Rosemary were our short list, all of which we both like.

So, Swistle, do you see any obvious compromises that I’ve missed? Is there any hope of convincing him that Archer won’t be called “Archie,” or that Jonah is a strong name? Please help!

 
I know we are avoiding Celtic, but the name that sprang to mind is Aidric. It’s similar to Aidan, but way less common. Aidric Smith; Declan and Aidric.

Callum is another Celtic-choice-even-though-we’re-supposed-to-be-avoiding-Celtic. What I like about it is I don’t think it SCREAMS “Celtic”: it’s Celtic enough to go well with Declan, but not so Celtic that I think it would be incompatible with non-Celtic names. Callum Smith; Declan and Callum.

Felix is one of my own favorite quirky names, but I’m worried the X blends too much with the S of Smith.

Another favorite is Milo—but I suspect you will like it and your husband won’t. Milo Smith; Declan and Milo.

Or Hugo? Hugo Smith; Declan and Hugo.

Another I like is Ruben. Ruben Smith; Declan and Ruben.

Can I talk you into one of my new favorites? Pascal Smith; Declan and Pascal.

I think Archer is such a great choice for you. I think he might indeed be called Archie, but I think Archie is adorable. Perhaps you could still use it as a middle name, where it won’t be nicknamed: it’s nice with River.

Jonah’s main issue is that soft-A ending—used almost exclusively for girls in the U.S., except for biblical names. Jonas is a little better, but it blends with Smith and there are the Jonas Brothers to consider. Josiah, maybe, or is that getting too close to Joseph Smith?

Judah sounds stronger to me, but with the surname it sounds like Judas. Jude Smith works, I think: it’s a 1-1 syllable name, but Brad Pitt and Sean Penn carry it well. Jude Archer Smith; Declan and Jude.

Or Judson, nickname Jud if you want it. Judson Archer Smith; Declan and Judson.

Or Griffin. It has the Finn you both liked, but it’s longer. It’s more common on the Social Security charts (#231 to Finn’s #300 in 2010), but I suspect that’s a deceptive figure, considering how many people use Finley, Finnegan, Phineas, etc., to get the nickname Finn. (Which you too could use, if you wanted to.) I won’t suggest Archer as the middle name for this one (initials), but the middle name slot would be a good place for a name you’d both agree on except for a major issue (i.e., maybe a name you’d both love if it weren’t so popular, or if it weren’t too Celtic). Griffin Smith; Declan and Griffin.

And I know Finnegan is kind of Celtic, but it seems like a good way to make the name Finn a little longer. Declan and Finnegan is a pretty dashing pair of brother names.

Or Haskell. VERY uncommon, yet feels familiar from it’s use as a surname. Haskell Smith; Declan and Haskell.

 

 

Name update! Natalie writes:

Our little guy arrived via emergency c-section on October 12, 2011 – although it was very scary at the time, we are both doing wonderfully now. His name, Asher Wesley, fits him perfectly. We have gotten compliments on his name from nearly every nurse and doctor we’ve seen, and our family and friends have reacted to it very well also. He’s 6 pounds, 15 oz, and 19 inches long… seems so tiny compared to his big brother, who was nearly 9 pounds at birth! Big bro Declan (almost 2 years old) is just as head over heels as we are, constantly wanting to kiss his “beebee Ashoo.”

Thank you so much for the help in finding the perfect name! I can absolutely say that Swistle and commenters are where we got his name, we may never have settled on it without you all.
Asher

Baby Boy Moncla, Brother to Lucy and Eli

Amanda writes:

We are due with our third child in October. We are having trouble naming this little boy mainly because I am being stubborn and I am set on a name that my husband likes “o.k.” but I guess he is not head over heels for it the way I am! Anyway, to give you some background information our last name is Moncla. I believe it is french and pronounced just as it looks Mon (like mom) cla (almost like claw but without the w). Our first child was a girl, Lucille (Lucy) Elizabeth and our second was a boy Eli James. He goes by Eli.
I knew for when naming them that I wanted each of them to have a saint name being that we are part of the Catholic faith. What I didn’t intend was that they would each have a saint name and a biblical name. So for our third son I would like to stay with that criteria.
I would like for his middle name to be Jude for St. Jude (but not a must) and this would leave his first name to be the biblical name. (Yes, I know that Jude is also a biblical name.)
The name I “LOVE” is Abram. My husband actually had read it to me but it didn’t strike me until later. Now he is unsure about it. The other names that I like that he has shot down were Silas and Asa.
Names on my husbands list include Isaac, Ian, Sebastian (too long to go with Lucy and Eli, in my opinion) and Xavier. I like Isaac and Ian but I do not love them.
I am having a really difficult time making a decision and knowing that I have approximately 98 days left as of today is making me quite nervous!
Any help would be appreciated!

 
If you would like to be talked out of Abram because of your husband’s uncertainty, I’ll mention that the M at the end blends a bit with the M at the beginning of your surname, and that the name Abram Moncla is a little difficult for me to say aloud. Neither of these things are dealbreakers by any means—but I find for myself, it can help me to release my grip on The Perfect Name if I can find ways in which it’s not completely Perfect.

The name Abel leaves you with much of the sound of Abram (as well as with the great nickname Abe), but it removes the M problems. Abel Moncla; Lucy, Eli, and Abel.

I wonder if you would like the name Asher? I think it goes very well with Lucy and Eli. Asher Moncla; Lucy, Eli, and Asher.

Or Nathaniel. Nathaniel Jude Moncla; Lucy, Eli, and Nate.

I think Seth helps balance the strong sounds of the surname, and also goes well with the similarly gentle name Eli. Seth Moncla; Lucy, Eli, and Seth. I don’t think it works well with the middle name Jude, however.

Or Gabriel. Gabriel Jude Moncla; Lucy, Eli, and Gabe.

If your husband likes Isaac, I wonder if he would like Zachary? Same “zac” sound. Zachary Moncla; Lucy, Eli, and Zach.

I think Samuel would work perfectly: Samuel Jude Moncla; Lucy, Eli, and Sam. That’s my favorite option.

Or Jude could be moved to the first-name slot, though this is something you would have thought of already, so I’ll just say it because I like it: Jude Moncla; Lucy, Eli, and Jude.

If you find yourself hopelessly stuck, I’ll remind you of something you already know but which is so easy to forget during the baby-naming process: any self-imposed restriction can be removed. It’s easy to inadvertently set up a series of preferences that paint us into an impossible corner where not a single name we like works with all the preferences, and it can be a relief to realize that that’s all they are: preferences. You’ve mentioned that Jude is also a biblical name—which means that if necessary you could look in the Saints section for a first name instead of in the Biblical section, which wouldn’t even require the preferences to be altered (though I can certainly see wanting the Saint Jude instead of the Bible Jude). James and Elizabeth are biblical names, but they’re also regular traditional names used without biblical associations—which means you can drop that restriction if it’s trapping you, especially if you chose the names originally without thinking of their biblical characters. The name Jude could be ditched entirely in favor of a saint first name and a new biblical middle name—which again, means you could try your luck in the Saints section instead of butting heads in Biblical.

 

 

Name update! Amanda writes:

I very much enjoyed reading your suggestions for naming our third child and also the comments were great! You had suggested a name that I had thought of but didn’t really care for before but after seeing it with the other childrens names I fell in love with it. Samuel Jude Moncla was born on October 4th at 11 am weighing 8 lbs 8oz. There were some comments about the way Sam Moncla may sound like salmon claw but even that didn’t stop us. I absolutely love his name and it fits him perfectly! Thanks for all of your help!

Sam

Let’s Name Kate Hudson’s Baby!

I notice that actress Kate Hudson and musician Matthew Bellamy have not yet named their new baby boy. I think we should help.

Here are the issues, as I see them. Kate Hudson’s first child is named Ryder Russell Robinson. The name Ryder, to me, is in categories like Cool, and Quirky But Not Too Out-There, and Tough But Still a Hippie. Also, the initials are RRR. Also, he has his father’s surname.

A different father this time could completely change the style of the name—but my guess is that it won’t, or won’t MUCH. The name Ryder has increased in popularity since Kate Hudson used it, so she may be looking for something even more unusual this time, or she may be trying to find something that roughly coordinates with its current popularity. My guess is that she will make the same decision this time to use the father’s surname. If she wants to repeat the triple-initial theme, this means the second child would have the initials BBB; if I had to guess one way or the other, I’d guess she wouldn’t do that this time.

My top choice for her is Hudson. I love mother’s-maiden-name-used-as-child’s-name names. Hudson Hawn would be nice, after her mother (the middle name Russell was after her step-father). Hudson Bellamy; Ryder and Hudson.

My second choice for her is Dean. James Dean gives the name a rocker/hippie toughness/gentleness that I think goes well with Ryder. Dean Bellamy; Ryder and Dean.

Another possibility is Devon, from the place Matthew Bellamy’s group Muse began. Devon Bellamy; Ryder and Devon.

Or George Bellamy, after Matthew Bellamy’s father George. I think George is the next Max/Sam, and celebrities tend to be on the cutting edge of such things. They jump first, while other people are still thinking “Wait, IS this funky-uncool-cool, or is it still just uncool?” But as Devivo points out, the Republican politicians George Bush and George W. Bush may have ruined the name for rocker-hippie types.

More possibilities in the rocker/hippie area:

Ace
Arrow
Blaze
Canyon
Everest
Ezra
Flynn
Forest
Lennox
Maverick
Orion
Oz
Paxton
Slater
Zane

Baby Girl or Boy Ele____

Nicki writes:

I’ve been following your blog for most of my pregnancy, hoping to find the perfect name for my child, but so far, no luck! We are due in the next month, we don’t know the sex and we are floundering without a solid name for either a girl OR a boy! Please help! my husband and I have some very mismatched name lists and would love some additional suggestions from you and your readers!

Husband’s list of names:

Ava – (Solid ‘no’ from me as it’s way too common)
Katrina – (Both of us are losing confidence in this one. We don’t like Kat, but are fine with Kate)
Christian – (Also a ‘no’ from me, and this might be weird but I don’t want people to refer to him as “that Christian guy” :)
Sebastian – (I can’t find a decent nickname for this one)
Luca – (I like this one; husband think it sounds like a pro footballer)

My list:

Maya – (Always loved it, husband is warming to it but prefers Maia)
Ivy – (Husband hates it and is really good at coming up with horrible ways to distort beautiful names! H-I-V for this one)
Fern – (l love that it’s from Charlotte’s Web. Husband and our families all disapprove!)
Alexia
Oscar – (Husband sings the Oscar Meyer weiner song) (does anyone else have a husband like this?!!)
Felix

I should also mention that many of my favourites were cut early on due to the mismatch with our last name that is three syllables and starts with Eli- (like elephant). These were:

Noelle
Mielle
Stella
Elijah

As for middle names, we both feel strongly about using family names. We would probably choose based on sound match, but as you can see, this is going to be tough!

John
George
Rudolf

Magdalene
Christine
Alexis
Carrie
Frida

Any advice you can pass on will be helpful!! THANKYOU!!

PS. I should also mention that this baby will be born in France. Everyone seems to think we should find a french-sounding name, but I havent come up with anything (aside from Noelle, I guess). I also really liked the name Paris when we thought we would be delivering in Canada, but now that we are in France, I refuse to be that corny :( I feel that all my favourites have been thrown out the window! I need some fresh and expert name advice!

and

My problem has become a little more specific so I hope that you and your readers can help. Basically, we have more or less decided on a girl’s name, but are stuck if this little one ends up being a boy! We can’t agree on even a short-list so we are hoping for some fresh advice from you and your readers before this baby comes (due this month!).

Our last name is 3 syllables, starting with the sound Eli- (like elephant). The names we would like to use as middles are from our families: John and Rudolf, and we wouldn’t be opposed to using both for one child (I have two middles). We are even in mild agreement over using the name Jonathan Rudolf, but thats the closest we have gotten to a boys name at all. Since John/Jonathan is a major family name on my side, there are many in my family and so I do feel a bit repetitive using it for our child. Other names we have liked are:

Husband’s choices:

Luca
Christian
Sebastion

My choices:

Oscar
Felix
Nicholas (although it is similar to my name.. so I wouldnt want to use the same nickname that I go by. I like the nn Cole though.)

Girls names that we have decided on are:

Maya Noelle
Maya Christine
Katrina Alexis
Alexia Grace

Any and all help is much appreciated!

From his list, it sounds like the name Christian is probably out for you; from yours, it sounds like Oscar is out for him. That leaves us with Luca, Sebastian, Felix, and Nicolas.

Sebastian appeals to me most because it’s in the French section of The Baby Name Wizard, but it doesn’t hit us over the head with its Frenchness. I would probably spell it the French way (but leaving off the French accent mark): Sebastien. I’ve heard two nicknames for Sebastian/Sebastien. Back in middle school, I knew a Sebastien who went by Bas (pronounced Baz, to rhyme with jazz). And one of my former classmates now has a child named Sebastian, and she calls him Seb or Sebby.

Speaking of the French section, don’t react right away to this name: I think it’s a tough sell because of being unfamiliar (only 28 boys were given the name in the U.S. last year), but that it has tremendous potential for working wonderfully. Ready? Pascal. It’s French, and I think the sounds in it are similar to both Felix and Oscar (but with no song for your husband to sing).

I also wonder if you’d like Hugo. It has the rhythm and some of the sounds of Luca, plus it’s in the French section.

His choice of Luca and your choice of Nicholas make me think of Nico.

Looking ahead to future sibling name implications might help narrow things down. I’d say that using Oscar would eliminate Maya (speaking of the song) and vice-versa. Oscar and Felix would also be unusable as a sibling set for me, but I’m not sure how many people are still familiar with The Odd Couple. Felix and Alexia might be great together or might be too much X.

Name update! Nicki writes:

Thanks to you and your readers, we went into the hospital with a confident list for either a girl or a boy (finalists were Felix, Nicolas, Theodore/Teo, and Jonathan), and after a long labour we met our baby boy and named him: Benjamin Rudolf. It was such a random, out-of-nowhere name that I had vetoed from the very beginning. But oddly, the day after the birth, my husband and I just looked at eachother and said his name is Benjamin! After nine months of crazy name discussions, we didnt even hesitate. Regardless, we thank you all for your naming help and perhaps one day a little Maya or Felix will join our clan!

Thanks again!

Baby Boy Beal, Brother to Henry Konrad

Claudia writes:

Back in June 2009, your blog helped us pick the name of our first son:
https://www.swistle.com/babynames/2009/06/26/baby-boy-beal/

Henry Konrad Beal was born July 17th, 2009 and we couldn’t be happier with the name choice. It fits him perfect. We are now expecting our 2nd son in just a couple weeks (due date is July 26th) and this time are really struggling to come up with another name. We’ve narrowed our list to 7 first names.

* Anderson
* Eliot
* Graham
* Julian
* Simon
* Theodore
* Truman (the only name we’ve reconsidered using for #2)

For middle names, we have 2 choices and will pick whichever goes best with the first name we select. First is Dane, a version of Daniel which is a family name on my side. The second is Dawson, a relation of David which is a family name on my husbands side.

Please, please, please help us pick as we are quickly running out of time. My husband’s favorite right now is Eliot Dawson and I’m leaning toward Julian Dane but now Simon is creeping up to my top spot.

Thanks!

 
With Henry, my favorites are Eliot, Graham, Simon, and Theodore. My own personal favorite is Simon. Let’s see what everyone else thinks: poll over to the right! [Poll closed; see results below.]

Beal