Baby Girl or Boy Peanuts-Character-Who-Plays-the-Piano

Dear Swistle,

I’m due with my first at the end of this week and my husband and I are currently swirling about in a name dilemma vortex. We aren’t finding out the sex and we’re tearing our hair out trying to come up with the one as D-Day approaches (okay, it’s just me! My patient husband seems worn down and is just trying to appease me at this point.)

Our last name is the Peanuts character who plays the piano.

Girl top picks:
– Hadley, nn Haddie
– Savannah, nn Savvy
– Sadie
– Sutton

Boy top picks:
– Theodore, nn Teddy
– Charles, nn Charlie
– Wells
– Macklin or Macallister, nn Mac

I like preppy, strong, and vintage names and my husband has skewed toward more traditional names (specifically for boys) like Benjamin.

I’ll run you through the imaginary problems I have created for each of these top picks—if only so you can get a glimpse inside the prison I’ve designed for myself…

Girl top picks:
– Hadley, nn Haddie (This is my favorite, after Hemingway’s first wife but I don’t love that it sounds like the Kinsleys/Ainsleys/made-up names of the early aughts, versus a historical name with some heft)
– Savannah, nn Savvy (This is my husband’s favorite girl name, but I am slightly hung up on the frilliness of it—although I love the alliteration. We are also not from the South and I worry people are going to think we’re cosplaying or something? Also, is it too 90s?)
– Sadie (This is another one of my all-time favorites. A couple on the outer tier of my husband’s friend circle recently named their baby girl this six months ago, so it feels slightly taken to me, but I keep telling myself that’s so silly. We see these friends less than once per year!)
– Sutton (Love the alliteration and the preppy, androgynous nature—but hung up on the unfortunate nickname of Sut that I feel like could pave the way for middle school and high school teasing due to its awful and misogynistic rhyme.)

Boy top picks:
– Theodore, nn Teddy (So darling, some good heft to it, but is it becoming too popular?!)
– Wells (I love how daring and bold this is—very preppy/presidential to my ear. My husband has come around on it a fair amount but thinks it’s still pretty out there.)
– Charles, nn Charlie (Just worried about it being way too popular!)
– Macklin or Macallister, nn Mac (We both love the shortened nickname Mac, and plan to use this for some child in our future—provided we have a boy—but it doesn’t feel like the first child name to us! We keep picturing a spunky second or third child with this name.)

Thank you so much for your input!

 

I hope we are not too late.

I love very much that you want to use Hadley for Hemingway’s first wife, but I think you are completely right that no one is going to think “Ah, after the first Mrs. Hemingway!” and instead they will think of the contemporary surname names such as Emerson/Kinsley/Everly/Addison. That may be the style you end up going for (many preppy/unisex names are in that category), but it feels like it misses the mark for literary/historical heft. On the other hand, if you might have a Hadley, an Emerson, and an Eliot, it starts to paint a clearer picture. Well, except I still would not have known that Hadley was the name of Hemingway’s first wife.

I’m also with you on Sutton. On the other hand, it doesn’t feel natural to shorten it to Sut, so maybe that wouldn’t be an issue? But perhaps someone who knows a Sutton could give us more information.

Savannah does have a ’90s sound to it: that’s when it hit the Top 100, and it’s been there ever since. I wouldn’t go so far as to say it was “TOO ’90s.” To me it goes with Samantha and Courtney and Gabrielle: names that are still being used now, but after several decades of popularity they’ve lost that smack of freshness.

I like Sadie, but not with your boy name options (thinking ahead to future possible brothers): it’s great with Charlie and Teddy and Mac, but then I want her to have a full name too. Sarah is the traditional given name for the nickname Sadie, but is it too difficult to say with the surname? It can also be a nickname for Mercedes.

On to boy names. The name Theodore hit the Top 50 in 2018 (the 2019 Social Security data, which normally would have come out in May 2020, has been delayed because of Covid-19), and my guess is that it is still there. Charles is at the same level of popularity, but holding steady rather than rising: #52 in 2018, #48 in 2017, #51 in 2016, #50 in 2015, #51 in 2014. In fact, I see Charles has been fairly steady for decades. Theodore, on the other hand, spent a few decades in the 200s and 300s, then shot up over the last five years. And Charlotte/Charlie for girls has increased dramatically in recent years.

I notice that Theodore almost repeats the ending of your surname.

Wells with the surname has an institutional/financial/business sound to me. It definitely sounds preppy to me, but not presidential: I’m not seeing many preppy names among the presidents. If you want presidential, I’d go with Theodore, Charles, or maybe something like John, George, Franklin, Warren.

I’m leaving Mac and its long forms for now, because I know what you mean about a name seeming like it’s for a later child.

Okay! So I think the next step is to start looking at some sibling sets. It can feel very odd to try to pick MULTIPLE names when it’s hard enough to name ONE baby, and we’re not going to try to actually do that: we’re just going to PLAY a little. And the reason we’re going to do that is that I see a bunch of repeated sounds in your lists, and I am also seeing some different styles. Widening the view a little (as you’re doing when you think you may want Mac for a future child, or as I did a few paragraphs back when thinking about Sadie with the boy-name list) can actually make it easier to narrow back down. It can also help reduce the possibility of using a name without noticing that it rules out using other names in the future.

For example! You love the alliteration of S- names, and you have several on your list: Savannah, Sadie, Sutton. How do you feel about siblings with the same initial? Some people don’t mind at all; others try very hard to avoid it; some wouldn’t mind two matching initials but not in a row because it would make them feel like they had to continue the pattern; and so on. If you want to avoid it, it’s good to think ahead of time about which S-name is your favorite.

Also! I see several D-sounds, which especially catch my eye because of the D-sound in the surname: Hadley, Sadie, Theodore. If you used one of those names, would a second seem like Too Much? Imagine Hadley [Surname] and Theodore [Surname]. Too much or just right?

If you used Hadley, would it later bother you to have a Charlie? Some people don’t mind a repeated end-sound, especially when one is a nickname; other people try very hard to avoid it. What about Sadie and Teddy? Sutton and Macklin? Wells and Charles? Sadie and Savvy? If using one name rules out using another name, it is good to think ahead of time to make sure you use your favorite.

If you used one of the more common/traditional boy names from your list (Theodore, Charles), does that make you feel at all odd using Wells or Macklin later? Or the other way around: if you use Wells for the first baby, does it make Theodore/Charles feel too traditional for future babies? If you use a unisex preppy name such as Hadley or Sutton for a girl, does that rule out the frillier Savannah for a future girl? if you use Savannah, does it rule out Hadley/Sutton? Some parents want the styles/popularities to be similar, and some care less about that.

Savannah and Sadie go well together; Hadley and Sutton go well together. Which pairing of sisters feels more like Your Kids, the ones you call to dinner and tell to do their homework?

I don’t feel like I should add a bunch of names for consideration when you are so close to delivery. On the other hand, I think I owe the girl-name list some work, after I was not very encouraging about any of the options. I tried to find an assortment of names: some a little prettier, like Savannah; some a little preppier, like Hadley and Sutton; and aiming for a Full Name sound like Theodore and Charles. I admit I went a little overboard, but I was having so much fun:

Arden
Beckett
Bianca
Brighton
Cassidy
Claudia
Cordelia
Darby
Darcy
Delia
Emlyn
Fiona
Flannery
Gwendolyn
Haven
Hillary
Holling
Imogen
Judith/Jude
Keaton
Landry
Lane
Langston
Linden
Lydia
Malone
Marigold
Matilda
Meredith
Merritt
Nadia
Selby
Simone
Sloane
Theodora/Teddy
Waverly
Winifred
Winslow

People feel differently about initials so I didn’t take those into account when making the list, but just to note that some people avoid the initials B.S.

I considered Ellis, but thought with your surname it would be mistaken for Ella.

Do you have any good family surnames you could use? It seems like the names with the best prep cred are the ones that are actual family surnames. And/or the John/Charles/Katherine/Elizabeth names that have been passed down through generations and so have nicknames such as Skip and Chip and Kit and Bitsy.

 

 

 

Name update:

Hi!

Your timing could not have been more perfect. I delivered a healthy baby girl on the morning of Sunday, June 7, and we took the entirety of our hospital visit to deliberate about names. I read your post and all the thoughtful comments aloud to my husband in the hospital room while snuggling our newest addition! It’s a fun memory from her birth.

We ended up choosing the name Savannah. I loved your advice about playing around with sibset names, and that’s exactly what steered us in the direction of Savannah. We thought about the names we’d like to bestow on the rest of our family and how to ensure they’ll all fit together (and which ones we’d be sad if we never got to use). Savannah just felt like a good, strong start—one that left a few different pathways open for future siblings! :)

Thanks again to you and all the commenters for your very thoughtful replies! You pointed out several angles we hadn’t considered, and we are so grateful.

Cheers!

19 thoughts on “Baby Girl or Boy Peanuts-Character-Who-Plays-the-Piano

  1. Jaime

    I think Sutton or Hadley are your best bets for a girl. And while Wells is my favorite from your list, I think names ending in s run into your last name. Charlie is a bit overdone but I do like McAllister/Mac and Theodore /Teddy. I hear Theo alot but Teddy still feels fresh to me.

    From Swistle, I love Merritt, Meredith, Darcy, Darby, Flannery, Gwendolyn, Judith/Jude, Claudia, Lydia and Theodora/Teddy.
    Or Beckett, Langston and Keaton.

    Other suggestions:

    Ainsley
    Tiernan
    Tierney
    Remy
    Blair
    Sybil
    Britton
    Clancy
    Dorian
    Enid
    Cressida
    Helen
    Ingrid
    Margot
    Romy
    Vale
    Vada

    OR

    Tobin
    Arlo
    Barrett
    Graham
    Grant
    Grady
    Holden
    Gideon
    Finnegan
    Milo
    Harvey
    Oscar
    Spencer

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  2. Meg

    How about Scarlett for a girl? It has the alliteration and surname style you like — the famous Scarlett from GWTW was named after her grandmother Katie Scarlett — but it’s pretty and Southern-sounding like your husband’s favorite, Savannah.

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  3. Iris

    Sadie sounds perfect: starts like Savannah, ends like Haddie. A good compromise for both parents.
    For a boy, what about Maxwell? Starts like Mac, ends like Wells.

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  4. Sutton

    An adult Sutton chiming in. I was actually on Swistle’s site almost a decade ago since I was a Stephanie who hated her name. I’m still just as happy with it now fully settled in as I was when I chose it. I work in a very nicknamey office and Sut has never come up. My nieces and nephews almost all went through a phase where I was Satin when they were toddlers.

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  5. Kathleen

    From your lists there are initially two obvious style directions to go in: the traditional-vintage style (Theodore ‘Teddy,’ Charles ‘Charlie,’ and Sadie) and the modern surname-as-first-name style (Hadley, Sutton, Wells, Macklin and Macallister).

    I actually think Wells is a bit of a chameleon. I can see Wells paired with every name on your two lists. I don’t think it sounds like a business name any more or less than the other reinvented surnames on your lists, especially when I picture it on a person. I also think Savannah goes with most of the names on your lists, though my favourite would be Savannah & Macklin. If you had a third I could easily see this going in different directions (Hadley, Wells, Charlie, Teddy, or Sadie) whilst still feeling comfortably compatible.

    A note on Hadley. Like Swistle, I too didn’t know of Hadley Richardson and I’m not sure many others would make the association either. I did some googling on where her middle name came from (her maternal grandmother’s maiden name) and found an interesting article by the Guardian ‘Hadley Freeman: Me and Mrs Hemingway’. I wonder if the history of Hadley might be more appreciated in the middle slot, where you are able to share the name story when you do reveal it with others.

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  6. Maureen

    Sutton is my married last name. I surveyed my husband (who obviously grew up with the name, along with his two sisters), and he said he got teased once or twice – with “glutton”. (The other rhyming word we on this site were thinking never came up.) I always thought Sutton was such a plain/boring last name (and still use my maiden name quite a bit) – but I feel delighted to hear it as a first name!

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  7. Cece

    I think Hadley falls into a different category than the ‘last name as first name gender neutral’ one for me – partly because of Hemingway’s wife and partly because of the aforementioned journalist, Hadley Freeman, who’s been writing for the Guardian in the UK since I was in my early 20s I think. To me it almost falls into the same category as Wells – preppy, intellectual-sounding. Maybe because of HG Wells? So yeah – I think Hadley and Wells would make a great sibset and that’s my favourite of your choices, although I also like Sadie. Teddy is so great too but very, very popular in the UK which has taken the shine off a little for me.

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  8. Alexandra

    I’d love to throw in Susanna/Susannah as an option. It’s recognizable, but quite rare, and has the sound/cadence of Savannah. It also has the built-in nicknames of Susie and Annie, which have the flavor of Sadie. Good luck!

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    1. Kimberley

      Perception of a name can be so funny. The only Wells I’ve ever heard of was my grand uncle born in the nineteen teens! I’d love to hear it on a little baby. Some people have commented that the s’s run together, but I think Wells Piano Player sounds good!

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  9. ab

    Going with the names you’ve narrowed in on, I like them best in the order you listed them.

    Hadley — I love this name. I would reverse the names of Mrs. H and go with Hadley Elizabeth. Also, I think the name Hadley is popular now in the vein of Harley, Hayden, and the like; it has moved beyond merely a connection to Hadley Richardson Hemingway.
    Savannah — I think the V puts Savannah in line with current faves like Ava, Evelyn, and Olivia.
    Sadie — the repeating D sound in the first and last names is a little rhyme-y, but not objectionable.
    Sutton — nothing wrong with the name, but not my favorite.

    Theodore — great nickname potential: Teddy, Theo, Ted (perhaps when he’s older)
    Wells — I don’t care for how the S in Wells precedes the beginning sound of your last name.
    Charles — same sound issue as with Wells, also the double Peanuts connection Brooke mentioned.
    Macklin/Macallister — I think I like Macklin better of the two.

    From the names that Swistle and others proposed, I like Grant and Meredith.

    Best wishes to you!

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  10. emag

    I know TWO baby girls named Sutton, and I LOVE it!!! Neither are called Sut, and it has never crossed my mind to shorten it like that- it doesn’t come naturally. That’s my favorite. 🥰

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  11. JMV

    I love Sadie! I think it works well with the last name. I wouldn’t feel compelled to use it as a nickname. It has enough legs to stand alone. I wouldn’t put Hadley into a historical/ literary context at all. Zola stuck me as a name worth putting on your list, if you must. Sadie seems perfect.

    I don’t love your boy list. I prefer Malcolm with the nn Mac. I’d add Sullivan nn Sully if Sadie falls off your list.

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  12. Carrie

    Firstly, I really love your naming style – all of them are great choices, but since you asked for opinions here goes.

    Hadley and Wells are my two favorites on your list. They both are preppy, smart, and I can imagine either one as a presidential candidate. Even though I didn’t know that Hadley was Hemingway’s first wife, I do not put Hadley in the same group as Ainsley and Kinsey.

    After Hadley, Sutton and Sadie are my next favorite in that order. I’m not a fan of Savannah. It’s a pretty name but I think it sounds too southern/frilly/debutante compared to the rest of your list.

    For boys; Theodore/Teddy is my #2 choice, Charles/Charlie is my #3 choice. I love the name Charlie but with your last name I think of Charles Schultz and Charles Schwab. I am not sure whether I would have had that association if there wasn’t a peanuts reference in your letter. Mac is my #4 choice. It feels like an outlier from your other names as all the others sound like they come from a well-to-do family and Mac…doesn’t.

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