{"id":8992,"date":"2014-06-03T13:11:20","date_gmt":"2014-06-03T17:11:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/?p=8992"},"modified":"2014-10-01T11:12:48","modified_gmt":"2014-10-01T15:12:48","slug":"baby-girl-wingate-sister-to-roland-deen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2014\/06\/03\/baby-girl-wingate-sister-to-roland-deen\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Girl Wingate, Sister to Roland Deen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Emily writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We r expecting a baby girl in 3 months. We are having problems deciding on a first name and pairing middle names. We chose our first baby&#8217;s name with such ease. I am worried that my and my Husband&#8217;s taste in girl names are so different, that we may never fully agree on a name like we did our son&#8217;s. Please Help!<br \/>\nPossible combinations that we are looking at that we cant narrow down or decided on:<\/p>\n<p>Navy Lil (I feel like it gives it a girly touch and is my pick tho my husband isn&#8217;t sold. Lillian was a Grandparents name.)<br \/>\nNavy Jean (Jean is an aunt my husband is fond of) (I do think Navy Jean and Roland Deen sound cute&#8230;)<br \/>\nNavy Northern (I am afraid that it sounds too much like a boy name)<br \/>\nNavy Marks (Mark is my Husband&#8217;s name and for a girl I like with the &#8216;s&#8217;)<br \/>\nCapers Cruz<br \/>\nCapers Mark (Is it too much like a boy?)<br \/>\nCapers Lil<br \/>\nKersey Cruz (Kersey is my Mother&#8217;s maiden name. I only like the names together and i don&#8217;t like Kersey alone.)<\/p>\n<p>Any suggestions or outside opinions are very welcome!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>If we were sitting together having coffee and talking this over, I think I&#8217;d start by asking for the story of how you chose your son&#8217;s name, and how you arrived at the candidates on your current list. Roland is an old and solid name with romantic\/knight associations, and Dean is an old surname name that came into style again in the mid 20th century. It&#8217;s common for parents to have a different style for boy names and girl names, but the gap between Roland Deen and names like Navy, Northern, and Capers is a large and unexpected one. I would have expected a pairing more like Roland Deen and Lillian Jean, or Roland Deen and Lillian Kersey.<\/p>\n<p>Capers is not currently used as a name in the United States for either boys or girls. The first syllable, which sounds like Kay, is very familiar as a name segment. The second syllable is partially found in names such as Harper, Juniper, and Piper, but -pers is not used as a name ending for any names currently used in the United States. For me the name Capers brings to mind the recipe ingredient and the actions of a court jester; neither is a positive association applied to a person. I also think of capes and papers and vapors, and I see a rearrangement of the name Casper.<\/p>\n<p>A similar name is Caprice: it was given to 27 new baby girls in 2013.<\/p>\n<p>Or would you like Cypress? It was given to 40 new baby girls and 24 new baby boys in 2013.<\/p>\n<p>Navy is more familiar as a name: 78 new baby girls and 13 new baby boys were given the name in 2013. Navy Wingate has an appealing look to it, I think, though I find it a little less pleasing to say aloud.<\/p>\n<p>Kersey is an interesting one to consider; I love the idea of salvaging a family name from your mom&#8217;s branch of the tree. If you don&#8217;t like it alone, though, it seems like it would be wise to cross it off the list: it&#8217;s likely that even if you started by always calling her Kersey Cruz, the Cruz would eventually be dropped. Would you like it without Cruz if Kersey were the middle name instead of the first name?<\/p>\n<p>My next choice from your list is Navy Jean. My one hesitation is that it makes me think of navy beans and navy jeans&#8212;but does anyone actually say &#8220;navy jeans&#8221;? I don&#8217;t think so, but the pairing made it come to my mind. Oh, I think it&#8217;s because of Old Navy jeans.<\/p>\n<p>A similar name is Ivy. Ivy Jean Wingate; Roland and Ivy.<\/p>\n<p>Or Silvie. Silvie Jean Wingate; Roland and Silvie.<\/p>\n<p>Vienna has sounds similar to Navy, in a different order. Vienna Wingate; Roland and Vienna.<\/p>\n<p>Or Neeve, or Neva, or Geneva.<\/p>\n<p>Mark as a middle name does spin the first name boy for me, as does Cruz. Marks brings to mind Richard Marx, Karl Marx, and the Marx Brothers. I wonder if you&#8217;d like Marlie? Or my mother used to know a little girl named Marksy and really liked the name on her.<\/p>\n<p>Northern brings to mind Kim Kardashian and Kanye West&#8217;s baby North; that association may lose impact with time, depending on how successful the family is in holding the media&#8217;s attention, and you&#8217;d be using it as a middle name anyway. But ____ Northern Wingate sounds very place-name to me&#8212;like an area of town, or a gated community. I also notice that Navy and Northern are both varieties of beans.<\/p>\n<p>It seems like what you like in a girl name is something unusual and distinctive, unisex or at least not frilly-feminine, and possibly also a word name. I wonder if you&#8217;d like any of these:<\/p>\n<p>Avalon<br \/>\nAvril<br \/>\nBriar<br \/>\nBritton<br \/>\nCalista<br \/>\nCampbell<br \/>\nCarlisle<br \/>\nClarity<br \/>\nDarby<br \/>\nDevany<br \/>\nEllison<br \/>\nEmlyn<br \/>\nGreer<br \/>\nHaven<br \/>\nHollis<br \/>\nJensen<br \/>\nKeatyn<br \/>\nLark<br \/>\nLennox<br \/>\nLyric<br \/>\nMadigan<br \/>\nMerritt<br \/>\nOakley<br \/>\nOpal<br \/>\nPadgett<br \/>\nPaisley<br \/>\nSterling<br \/>\nWren<br \/>\nYeardley<\/p>\n<p>Some of these have issues similar to the ones mentioned above: sounding like places with the surname, or getting rather noun-heavy, or being a surprising combination with Roland. But these are personal preference things: if they don&#8217;t bother you, they don&#8217;t need to be taken heavily into account.<\/p>\n<p>My favorite two middle name choices are Jean (family name, sounds great with so many names) and Kersey (family surname), unless you only like Kersey as a first name. Or Emlyn might make a middle name similar to your own name. Avalon Jean Wingate. Merritt Kersey Wingate. Paisley Emlyn Wingate. Padgett Jean Wingate. Opal Kersey Wingate. Hollis Emlyn Wingate.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Name update:<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We are excited to announce that Navy Amelia Wingate arrived September 9th! She was 6 lbs and 8 oz and was 19&#8243; long! Thank you Swistle for all of the advice!<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-10505\" src=\"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/download_20140915_153401.jpeg\" alt=\"download_20140915_153401\" width=\"275\" height=\"155\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/download_20140915_153401.jpeg 275w, https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/download_20140915_153401-150x84.jpeg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 275px) 100vw, 275px\" \/><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Emily writes: We r expecting a baby girl in 3 months. We are having problems deciding on a first name and pairing middle names. We chose our first baby&#8217;s name with such ease. I am worried that my and my Husband&#8217;s taste in girl names are so different, that we may never fully agree on [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8992","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-name-update"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3iyiG-2l2","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8992","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8992"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8992\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10506,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8992\/revisions\/10506"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8992"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8992"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8992"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}