{"id":8691,"date":"2014-03-14T08:38:53","date_gmt":"2014-03-14T12:38:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/?p=8691"},"modified":"2014-03-14T08:52:20","modified_gmt":"2014-03-14T12:52:20","slug":"baby-naming-issue-the-use-of-the-suffix-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2014\/03\/14\/baby-naming-issue-the-use-of-the-suffix-ii\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Naming Issue: The Use of the Suffix &#8220;II&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>C. writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We are considering using my husband&#8217;s grandfather&#8217;s name, Edward Lachlan Brenner for our second son due this May. From what I understand, this child would be considered a second&#8230;is this correct even though it skipped two generations AND we already had a first born son (Lucas James)?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m concerned it&#8217;s not acceptable since we already have a son and I worry as our first son gets older, he might feel he deserved this name instead (even though his middle name is after my FIL). In all honestly, we just didn&#8217;t consider the option the first time around!<\/p>\n<p>What do you think??<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>While the suffix &#8220;Jr.&#8221; is given only to the son or daughter of the namesake, the suffix &#8220;II&#8221; is specifically intended for use by a grandchild, nephew\/niece, etc., and so the number of generations in between is not an issue.<\/p>\n<p>Your son&#8217;s own birth order is also unimportant: suffixes don&#8217;t require the holder of them to be the firstborn, and the explanation &#8220;We just didn&#8217;t think of it the first time!&#8221; is a good one. While it&#8217;s possible your firstborn will later wish he&#8217;d been given the name, my guess is that it won&#8217;t be an issue&#8212;or if it does come up, the explanation is a good one for him, too. The balance works well: only two of his three names match the honoree&#8217;s, but the honoree is a generation closer.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d suggest naming him for your husband&#8217;s grandfather without making him a II: the suffix is optional, and is mostly to help avoid confusion. If the namesake is three generations older and has a different address, I doubt there will be any confusion to avoid. And if you&#8217;re concerned others will think it&#8217;s inappropriate to use the honor name for a second son, not using the II will keep most people from even turning their minds to the issue.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>C. writes: We are considering using my husband&#8217;s grandfather&#8217;s name, Edward Lachlan Brenner for our second son due this May. From what I understand, this child would be considered a second&#8230;is this correct even though it skipped two generations AND we already had a first born son (Lucas James)? I&#8217;m concerned it&#8217;s not acceptable since [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8691","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3iyiG-2gb","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8691","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8691"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8691\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8693,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8691\/revisions\/8693"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8691"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8691"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8691"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}