{"id":8562,"date":"2014-01-30T13:15:52","date_gmt":"2014-01-30T17:15:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/?p=8562"},"modified":"2014-01-30T13:15:52","modified_gmt":"2014-01-30T17:15:52","slug":"baby-boy-nay-lean-brother-to-oscar-meng","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2014\/01\/30\/baby-boy-nay-lean-brother-to-oscar-meng\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Boy Nay-Lean, Brother to Oscar Meng"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Maggie writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We are expecting our second baby boy in about 5 weeks and are still undecided on a name! Both of our sons will have our last names as a hyphenated last name. It sounds like Nay-Lean, but with an &#8220;M&#8221; for the first letter. Our first son&#8217;s name is Oscar with a middle name Meng. We chose Oscar because we both liked the name and Meng is my husband&#8217;s father&#8217;s name. My middle name is a family name and it&#8217;s important to me to continue that tradition with my sons.<\/p>\n<p>My main requirement for Oscar&#8217;s name was that it (or the nickname that he would actually be called) be two syllables. In my mind, this helps balance a somewhat awkward hyphenated last name. This eliminates a ton of boys names which are often shortened to one-syllable nicknames. I would like to continue this requirement for the new baby, although I find myself waivering on it a bit (or a lot) as we look for names. I&#8217;m also looking for a name that makes Oscar sound less &#8220;hipster&#8221; and more serious\/literary\/old-fashioned, rather than more hipster. I generally don&#8217;t like the trend toward surname-type boys names like Beckett or Cooper. I love 3-syllable names and my husband seems drawn to names that end in &#8220;S.&#8221; We never got too far down the road of girl&#8217;s names, but my favorite is Elsa, short for Elizabeth, which is a family name.<\/p>\n<p>Here are our current contenders for first names:<\/p>\n<p>Theodore (nn Theo): This was my first choice, until some friends of ours named their son Theo in October. My husband says it&#8217;s off the table and I might agree. I think Oscar and Theo go well together with a similar historic vibe and I also like that Theo has an &#8220;O&#8221; sound but doesn&#8217;t start with a vowel.<\/p>\n<p>Harry: My new (somewhat reluctant) front runner. I think Harry is cute and goes well with Oscar, but worry about the &#8220;hairy&#8221; association. Also not sure I want to name him Harry as a standalone name. We could use the family name Haymond (see below) with Harry as a nickname, but I don&#8217;t love the name Haymond. My husband likes Harrison, but I don&#8217;t love it because its a surname. Any other creative ways to get to Harry? I floated Harry as a (totally made-up) nickname for Abraham, but my husband thinks its too far-fetched.<\/p>\n<p>Augustus: Probably my husband&#8217;s first choice and I think the nn Gus is adorable. Husband prefers Auggie, which I like but worry it&#8217;s too vowel heavy with Oscar.<\/p>\n<p>Leo: This was one of my close runners up for Oscar, but I think it&#8217;s become too popular for us in the last few years.<\/p>\n<p>Atlas: My husband first suggested this name as a joke, but he&#8217;s become more serious about it. I think it&#8217;s both too unusual and too weighty (pun intended) for a name.<\/p>\n<p>Julius: My husband&#8217;s suggestion. I think it&#8217;s okay, but like Julian better.<\/p>\n<p>Thaddeus: My husband&#8217;s suggestion of a combination of Theodore and Atlas. Don&#8217;t love the nn Thad though. Could maybe go for Tad.<\/p>\n<p>For the middle name, I would like to choose something from my mom&#8217;s family. These are the options (we&#8217;re also open to any of these as a first name if we could find a more wearable nickname):<\/p>\n<p>John: my maternal grandfather&#8217;s name<br \/>\nHaymond: my maternal grandfather&#8217;s middle name<br \/>\nWest: my mother&#8217;s last name<br \/>\nMichael: my uncle&#8217;s name<br \/>\nClarence: my mother&#8217;s grandfather&#8217;s name<br \/>\nRudolph: my mother&#8217;s other grandfather&#8217;s name<br \/>\nWade: my mother&#8217;s uncle&#8217;s name<br \/>\nKlipfel: my grandmother&#8217;s maiden name<\/p>\n<p>I think we need strong opinions and more suggestions! I feel like we&#8217;re no closer to a name than we were when we first found out it was a boy a few months ago. Help!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Prince Harry&#8217;s given name is Henry, and in fact the name Harry began as a nickname for Henry. Henry (Harry) Nay-Lean; Oscar and Henry\/Harry. Then if the &#8220;hairy&#8221; issue DID become a problem, you could easily fall back on Henry, or on Hank. And Henry can feel quite literary: Henry James, O. Henry. It may be too popular for you, however: it was #43 in 2012 (for comparison, the name Oscar was #177; Leo was #134).<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d add Abram. It&#8217;s not very common (#392 in 2012); it&#8217;s two syllables; and it has the great nicknames Abe and Bram. I wonder, though, if it merges with the M- of the surname.<\/p>\n<p>Atlas and Julius make me think of Silas. Silas Nay-Lean; Oscar and Silas.<\/p>\n<p>Julius and Leo make me think of Louis. Louis Nay-Lean; Oscar and Louis. I really like that one.<\/p>\n<p>Augustus and Atlas make me think of Angus. Angus Nay-Lean; Oscar and Angus\/Gus.<\/p>\n<p>Augustus and Atlas also make me think of Atticus. Atticus Nay-Lean; Oscar and Atticus.<\/p>\n<p>Or Douglas. Douglas Nay-Lean; Oscar and Douglas.<\/p>\n<p>Or Alistair. Alistair Nay-Lean; Oscar and Alistair. I&#8217;m not crazy about the matched endings, but I didn&#8217;t notice it until I was proof-reading so maybe the different number of syllables helps reduce the effect.<\/p>\n<p>Theo and Leo make me think of Hugo. Hugo Nay-Lean; Oscar and Hugo.<\/p>\n<p>I like Franklin&#8212;though it helps that I went to high school with a guy named Frank who was bright and funny and well-liked. Franklin Roosevelt and Benjamin Franklin are also good associations for me. Franklin Nay-Lean; Oscar and Franklin\/Frank.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d also add Everett. Everett Nay-Lean; Oscar and Everett.<\/p>\n<p>I frequently push the name John as a first name. I think you might find it a surprisingly satisfying choice: depending on where you live, it can be very uncommon in the classroom&#8212;almost startling. Johnny would be the retro nickname, or of course there&#8217;s Jack; or you could do an initials nickname with the middle name (J.W.); or you could call him by first and middle names (John West); but John on its own might be distinctive enough. John Nay-Lean; Oscar and John.<\/p>\n<p>I think Rudy works great as an everyday nickname for Rudolph. I still think of cute Rudy on The Cosby Show, but I doubt many of his peers would&#8212;and even Rudy Huxtable doesn&#8217;t make the name seem girlish to me.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Maggie writes: We are expecting our second baby boy in about 5 weeks and are still undecided on a name! Both of our sons will have our last names as a hyphenated last name. It sounds like Nay-Lean, but with an &#8220;M&#8221; for the first letter. Our first son&#8217;s name is Oscar with a middle [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8562","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3iyiG-2e6","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8562","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8562"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8562\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8563,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8562\/revisions\/8563"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8562"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8562"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8562"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}