{"id":8113,"date":"2013-09-12T09:54:58","date_gmt":"2013-09-12T13:54:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/?p=8113"},"modified":"2014-02-07T06:56:10","modified_gmt":"2014-02-07T10:56:10","slug":"baby-boy-thornbush-with-a-d-august-gus-or-osborn-ozzy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2013\/09\/12\/baby-boy-thornbush-with-a-d-august-gus-or-osborn-ozzy\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Boy Thornbush-with-a-D: August (Gus) or Osborn (Ozzy)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ashley writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>My name is Ashley and my husband goes by Tony, although his formal name is Mark Anthony. Our last name sounds like Thornbush but starts with a D (and is spelled with the German \u2013sch ending).<\/p>\n<p>After two failed pregnancies, we are having our first baby, a boy, due January 8th, and I\u2019d love to hear an outside perspective on our choices. Our son\u2019s first name will be Mark, in honor of my husband\u2019s father who passed away six months ago. Like my husband, though, he will not go by his first name. He will be definitely be known (by us, at least \u2013 he can switch it up later in life, if he chooses) by his middle name. We\u2019ve narrowed down the final two:<\/p>\n<p>1) August \u2013 probably call him Gus as a pet name around the house, but definitely introduce him as August.<\/p>\n<p>2) Osborn \u2013 this is my grandfather\u2019s last name (my mom\u2019s maiden), and he passed away about two months ago. We\u2019d introduce him as Oz\/Ozzy if we went with this name.<\/p>\n<p>My husband really likes Osborn, and while I\u2019m warming to it more and more, I\u2019m not sure I can completely commit. Is Oz too off-beat? I\u2019d consider myself a pretty quirky person but I don\u2019t want to saddle my children with names that are a little too far off the beaten path. On the other hand, August doesn&#8217;t necessarily knock me out.<\/p>\n<p>Other names we seriously considered:<\/p>\n<p>Arlo (gets a little mushed together when you say it with the first name, though we realize you wouldn\u2019t say the two together very often)<\/p>\n<p>Owen (the most common name on our list, though we\u2019d likely use the nickname Mo as a play off the two names)<\/p>\n<p>Other names that we considered but didn\u2019t get as far:<\/p>\n<p>West<br \/>\nSullivan<br \/>\nAdler<br \/>\nTheodore<br \/>\nMontgomery<br \/>\nAlton<\/p>\n<p>As for other details, we plan on having at least one more child (two if we\u2019re lucky!), and we definitely hadn\u2019t come very close to deciding on a girl\u2019s name.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for your help!!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I prefer, in general, to stick to a &#8220;one quirk per name&#8221; limit, or actually I guess it&#8217;s more like two. That is, if a child is going to go by his or her middle name exclusively, that&#8217;s one quirk. Or if a child is going to have a very unusual name with a strong association, that&#8217;s one quirk. Going by (1) the nickname of (2) a very unusual and strongly-associated (3) middle name, in a situation where the nickname adds even more to the association, seems like a lot of quirks for one name. It&#8217;s not that you can&#8217;t do it, and plenty of people do it all the time; it&#8217;s only that if you&#8217;re asking me, and you are, it exceeds my own personal limit for what I would personally want to cope with if it were my own name. But it helps in this case that we&#8217;re all already familiar with the concept of a son having to use his middle name because his first name is already being used by another family member.<\/p>\n<p>A character in Buffy the Vampire Slayer first drew my attention to the appeal of the name Oz. It&#8217;s an extremely adventurous choice, strongly associated with The Wizard of Oz, but I think it could work. It helped that the character Oz was cool and cute and confident&#8212;but on the other hand, that makes me fret a bit about how well the name would work on a child who turned out less cool\/confident. Still, as you&#8217;ve mentioned, he could use Mark instead.<\/p>\n<p>Using Oz\/Ozzy WITH OSBORN, however, brings the singer <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ozzy_Osbourne\">Ozzy Osbourne<\/a> so vividly and immediately to mind, it&#8217;s startling. If we had more associations, it would help tremendously&#8212;but right now Ozzy Osbourne is still dominating it. And his image is so dark: the various addictions, biting the heads off doves and bats, accusations of satanism, the band name Black Sabbath.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a family name&#8221; can save many an unusual choice, however, and Ozzy Osbourne&#8217;s surprising harmlessness\/affability on his recent reality show may help as well. Plus, he won&#8217;t really be &#8220;Ozzy-short-for-Osborn,&#8221; he&#8217;ll just be Ozzy or Oz; it would in fact be LESS of an association than if his first name were Osborn.<\/p>\n<p>I think if it were me, though, I&#8217;d come down on the side of saving Osborn to be the middle name of a child who would go by his first name. When I think of it tucked away there, it gives me a cool\/fun feeling instead of the worry that it&#8217;s too darkly cool a name for the average manager, bank teller, or teacher.<\/p>\n<p>August seems like a great choice. But with so much time left, are you sure these are your two finalists? You say August doesn&#8217;t knock you out, and you&#8217;re only just &#8220;warming to&#8221; Osborn. It sounds too soon to be calling those the final two.<\/p>\n<p>If you like the sound of Ozzy, Crosby might be a nice option.<\/p>\n<p>Or Desmond, with the nickname Desi\/Dezzie.<\/p>\n<p>Or Ezra.<\/p>\n<p>Or Ezekiel, with the nickname Zeke.<\/p>\n<p>Or Isaac, with the nickname Ike.<\/p>\n<p>If you like Mo, I wonder if you&#8217;d like Moses? Moses has a less dark and more diluted set of associations (Moses from the Bible, Grandma Moses, Moses Lake, Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin&#8217;s son, etc.). Mark Moses Thornbush, called Mo. It&#8217;s no more quirky than Mark Osborn called Oz&#8212;and less so because the associations are more positive\/diluted, and because Mark and Mo both start with M.<\/p>\n<p>Or you could do your M.O. idea, but with a name other than Owen. Mark Oakley. Mark Oberon. Mark Odin. Mark Orion. Mark Oscar. Mark Otto. Or of course Mark Osborn, but calling him Mo instead of Ozzy.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;d like to honor your grandfather, is his first name useable? or his middle name? I do like the idea of using a name from your side of the family, since the child&#8217;s first name (and also his surname?) will be from his father&#8217;s side.<\/p>\n<p>Have you committed to the idea of using Mark as the first name, even though you don&#8217;t want to use the name in a daily way? Perhaps Mark could be the middle name, freeing you to consider more options for the first name. I love Arlo Mark Thornbush-with-a-D, and Arlo seems like a great choice for &#8220;quirky but not too far off the beaten path.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Owen and Arlo make me think of:<\/p>\n<p>Eamon<br \/>\nHugo<br \/>\nLeo<br \/>\nMilo<br \/>\nNolan<br \/>\nOtto<br \/>\nRohan<br \/>\nRonan<br \/>\nRoland<br \/>\nTobias<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Name update!<\/strong> Ashley writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m so excited to announce that on Tuesday, January 7th, our baby boy, Mark Osborn Dornbusch, made his entrance into the world!\u00a0 Ozzie (notice we changed the spelling to the -ie ending) is definitely a handful, but we obviously love him to pieces. :-)<\/p>\n<p>I want to thank everyone for their valuable feedback.\u00a0 As it turns out, the pull of the double honor name was just too much to resist.\u00a0 I know there was some concern that giving him a first name he wouldn&#8217;t use would be a pain, but that was always a non-negotiable in our book.\u00a0 My husband has been dealing with that his whole life and has no complaints; it&#8217;s simply a tradition we already knew that we would continue.\u00a0 There was also some concern about the Ozzy Osbourne connection, but after some discussion, that felt like a generational association that would fade with time.\u00a0 Overall, we&#8217;ve had really great reactions from people who hear his name, much like the majority of the commenters.\u00a0 Oz for the win!<\/p>\n<p>Attached is a picture of our little meatball. :-)<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-8578\" alt=\"Oz\" src=\"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Oz.jpg\" width=\"200\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Oz.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/Oz-112x150.jpg 112w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ashley writes: My name is Ashley and my husband goes by Tony, although his formal name is Mark Anthony. Our last name sounds like Thornbush but starts with a D (and is spelled with the German \u2013sch ending). After two failed pregnancies, we are having our first baby, a boy, due January 8th, and I\u2019d [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8113","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-name-update"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3iyiG-26R","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8113","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8113"}],"version-history":[{"count":17,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8113\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8579,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8113\/revisions\/8579"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8113"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8113"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8113"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}