{"id":6951,"date":"2009-09-09T19:06:00","date_gmt":"2009-09-09T23:06:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2009\/09\/09\/baby-boy-kil\/"},"modified":"2009-09-09T19:06:00","modified_gmt":"2009-09-09T23:06:00","slug":"baby-boy-kil","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2009\/09\/09\/baby-boy-kil\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Boy Kil"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Sarah writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>My husband Dave and I are due with our second son on September 15th.  We&#8217;ve never found ourselves in agreement about names.  Our 21-month-old son, Isaac Zygmunt, was two days old before we named him.  (Dave suggested Isaac after Sir Isaac Newton, and I readily agreed since it was what I&#8217;d wanted my parents to name my youngest brother.  Zygmunt is after Dave&#8217;s long-deceased grandfather, and also the middle name of both Dave and his dad.)  We call him Ike.  I like the idea of his new baby brother getting a fun nickname, too, but it&#8217;s not a requirement.<\/p>\n<p>In my opinion, our last name, Kil (pronounced &#8220;kill&#8221;) can be a bit hard on first names.  Ones that end in &#8220;-en&#8221; or &#8220;-an&#8221; often create an unpleasant combo.  For example, Dave recently suggested the name Roman, and I pointed out that with our last name, it would sound like &#8220;roam and kill.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Dave, a geek, looks to scientists and mathematicians for name inspiration.  (Hence Isaac.)  But even more, he loves what he calls &#8220;gladiator\/warrior&#8221; names&#8211;Apollo, Leonidas, Maximus, Sinbad.  These strike me as names better suited to pets or comic book heroes.  Dave loves the idea of Maximus &#8220;Max&#8221; Kil, but it just sounds too violent to me.<\/p>\n<p>I like the idea of using names from our families.  We could name the baby after our dads, Charles and Richard, who both died shortly after Dave and I started dating.  I like the nickname Charlie for a little guy.  (My dad went by Chuck, which sounds like more of a grown-up nickname to me.)  I&#8217;d rather not use Richard as the first name because Dave says he&#8217;d want to shorten it to his dad&#8217;s nickname, Dick.  (No offense to a great guy.)<\/p>\n<p>Probably my favorite at the moment is Arlo.  It first appealed to me in high school, when I noticed a couple famous people with the name.  I&#8217;ve been thinking about it again recently, but I held off on suggesting it until a few days ago.  Dave didn&#8217;t shoot it down, but I think he was just being polite because I built it up so much.  I tried to sell him on the idea that it sounds similar to Apollo.  It&#8217;s also an Italian variant of Charles, which I enjoy knowing, since my dad was half Italian.<\/p>\n<p>I have long liked the name Atticus (from one of my favorite books, To Kill A Mockingbird).  Dave has expressed that it&#8217;s cool because it has that ancient Roman sound he likes, but I wonder if it&#8217;s just a little too unusual to actually saddle my kid with.<\/p>\n<p>Dave also likes Xavier; while I find it vastly preferable to his other picks, I don&#8217;t love it.  Names which have been suggested and not outright disagreed upon are Abraham (Abe) and Asher (Ash). <\/p>\n<p>Besides Zygmunt, our grandfathers had\/have very common first names, but niftier middle names that might be worked in somewhere:  Gardner, Martin, Roland.  Oh, and David might be all right, too. <\/p>\n<p>Can you come up with a name that will somehow marry our disparate tastes?  Many thanks!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m with you on Maximus Kil.  The child has geek genes, you said?  A name like Maximus Kil is not going to work if he turns out intellectual, quiet, bookish, or skinny.  In fact, I can&#8217;t picture it on a burly football player, either.  Or on a doctor.  Or on a computer programmer, a teacher, a psychologist, a scientist, or anyone except a pro wrestler or video game character.<\/p>\n<p>The name Atticus leaps out at me from your list, but I wish it had a nickname.  It seems like a lot of name for everyday use.  But it would make a terrific middle name.  Perhaps for this boy you could switch the family name to the first position and do Charles Atticus.  Ike and Charlie.<\/p>\n<p>I love Arlo and hope your husband will go for it.  I like Arlo Richard, since it puts the name of honor in a non-nickname position.<\/p>\n<p>Another first-name possibility is Edison.  I&#8217;ve said it aloud a few times with your surname and I don&#8217;t think it presents problems there.  Ike and Ed is adorable.<\/p>\n<p>I also suggest Augustus.  Ike and Gus.<\/p>\n<p>Or Quintus:  Ike and Quin.<\/p>\n<p>Archimedes is a lot of name, but the cute nickname Archie makes it more manageable.  Ike and Archie.<\/p>\n<p>Darwin is a GREAT boy name, but Darwin has come to represent all of evolutionary theory.  The name may now be too steeped in meaning for regular use.<\/p>\n<p>Linus.  Ike and Linus.<\/p>\n<p>Tycho was the name of a famous astronomer, but doesn&#8217;t he sound more like a gladiator?  Ike and Ty.  [<span>Edit:<\/span>  I&#8217;ve been saying it TIKE-o, but apparently it&#8217;s TEEK-o.  Thanks, Karen!  I think Ike and Teek is great.]<\/p>\n<p><span>Name update<\/span> 09-25-2009!  Sarah writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Both you and your readers provided excellent ideas.  When we saw Augustus\/&#8221;Gus,&#8221; Dave and I were both excited.  It really was perfect for both our tastes. The next day Dave&#8217;s enthusiasm for it waned, but I&#8217;ll be keeping it for possible future use.<\/p>\n<p>Our new little guy was born on the 15th, and after a couple nameless days, we were getting frustrated.  I liked a number of names but had no absolute favorite; Dave had been campaigning for Maximus since before our first son was born.  I told Dave we should go with Maximus.  He got nervous about my sudden change of heart, so it took another day before we officially committed to Maximus Richard, &#8220;Max.&#8221;  I can&#8217;t imagine him as anyone other than Max now and feel that he&#8217;ll mold the name to who he is.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sarah writes: My husband Dave and I are due with our second son on September 15th. We&#8217;ve never found ourselves in agreement about names. Our 21-month-old son, Isaac Zygmunt, was two days old before we named him. 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