{"id":6704,"date":"2010-07-26T19:27:00","date_gmt":"2010-07-26T23:27:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2010\/07\/26\/baby-boy-ingrum\/"},"modified":"2010-07-26T19:27:00","modified_gmt":"2010-07-26T23:27:00","slug":"baby-boy-ingrum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2010\/07\/26\/baby-boy-ingrum\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Boy Ingrum"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Tricia writes:<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>My first child, a boy, is due August 14, and I am in desperate need of your expertise and ideas.<\/p>\n<p>My last name is pronounced &#8220;ING-grum.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>We are going to be a Mom-Kid family, so using a name that connects to the males in my family tree holds great appeal but there are only two under serious consideration.  The first of these is William &#8211; my grandfather.  I like the name, but I don&#8217;t LOVE it, and I despair that it&#8217;s so common.  The second name is Edgar, and the history there is pretty deep: my dad, great-uncle (who died in WWII shortly before my father was born) and great-grandfather.  I don&#8217;t have any siblings, so the name stopped with my dad.  My dad uses the nn Ted, and it&#8217;s perfect on him, but I can\u2019t quite wrap my brain around it for my son.  Ed\/Eddie are not options as a nickname.<\/p>\n<p>If nothing else, I&#8217;ll probably use either William or Edgar as a mn.<\/p>\n<p>I should also note that my dad&#8217;s middle name is Grey (it was his mother&#8217;s maiden name).  It&#8217;s on my list of possibilities, and I&#8217;d love it if there weren&#8217;t the rather gloomy, grey-day association.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d prefer to give my son a formal name that has a nickname, but I tend to only like the nickname for many of the options I\u2019m considering.  Also, a lot of sounds either clash with ING-grum, or blur into it \u2013 for example Chris sounds like Chri-sing-grum, but paired with Alec, the &#8220;Ing&#8221; tends to sound like &#8220;Ink&#8221; &#8211; at least when I say it!<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m athletic and outdoorsy.  My personal style tends to be eclectic, classic or comfortable, versus trendy, hip or artsy.  My family genealogy can best be described as western European mutt &#8212; not much to draw on there, and I find myself shying away from names that have especially strong ethnic associations because they feel &#8220;phony&#8221; when applied to me.<\/p>\n<p>Some of the names I like, with caveats:<br \/>\n<br \/>Leo \u2013 very appealing to me, but might be too much of a hipster name.  Also, I don\u2019t like Leonard as a formal name.  AND, he\u2019s probably going to be a Leo (astrologically speaking), so maybe this is too much?  I know you just addressed Leo in a recent post, and based on that, I&#8217;m giving &#8220;Leo as a complete name&#8221; more consideration.<br \/>\n<br \/>Theo \u2013 an homage to my dad&#8217;s nn of Ted &#8211; I like Theo, but the &#8220;dore&#8221; in Theodore bugs me<br \/>\n<br \/>Alexander \u2013 LOVE but too popular?<br \/>\n<br \/>Thomas<br \/>\n<br \/>Max \u2013 have loved this name forever, not crazy about Maximilian, Maximus, etc.<br \/>\n<br \/>Graham \u2013 appeals to me, but friends have vetoed it because the spelling (but not pronunciation) is identical to the second syllable of my ln<br \/>\n<br \/>Patrick \u2013 but not with nn Pat<br \/>\n<br \/>Parker<br \/>\n<br \/>Tucker<br \/>\n<br \/>Quinn \u2013 kind of blurs with &#8220;ING-grum&#8221;<br \/>\n<br \/>Garrett<br \/>\n<br \/>Elliot<br \/>\n<br \/>Grey \u2013 cute, but gloomy<\/p>\n<p>Names that are \u2018taken\u2019 by friends\/family, or that I\u2019ve otherwise ruled out:<br \/>\n<br \/>Jack<br \/>\n<br \/>Sam<br \/>\n<br \/>Ryan<br \/>\n<br \/>Dylan<br \/>\n<br \/>Liam<br \/>\n<br \/>Mason<br \/>\n<br \/>Miles<br \/>\n<br \/>Damian<br \/>\n<br \/>James<\/p>\n<p>I feel like I&#8217;m all over the map! Can you please give me some direction??<\/p>\n<p>Thank you so much!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Edgar seems like a great option for you:  unusual, with huge family ties.  But it sounds like you definitely want a nickname but you don&#8217;t want any of the nicknames for Edgar.  So let&#8217;s rule Edgar out as a first name.<\/p>\n<p>Well, wait.  Wait wait wait.  What about naming him Edgar Grey Ingrum, and using Grey as the nickname?  It&#8217;s a little bit of a reach, but I like so much your idea of using family names here.  He&#8217;d be Edgar Grey Ingrum II, I think&#8212;since he&#8217;s not a Jr. and yet he&#8217;d have the same name as your father&#8212;but you wouldn&#8217;t HAVE to use the II.  It seems like a pretty excellent way to give your son strong male family ties and carry on an important family name that might otherwise be lost&#8212;plus you could use a name you love but might feel uncertain about using in the first-name slot because of the gloominess associations you mention.  (I myself associate grey with grey flannel pants and with dreamy grey eyes.)<\/p>\n<p><span>Name update!<\/span> Tricia writes:<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It has been more than a year(!!) since you helped me with my naming dilemma.  I&#8217;m ashamed to be this late in saying thank you to you and your readers, but Thank You. <\/p>\n<p>You wrote: &#8220;What about naming him Edgar Grey Ingrum, and using Grey as the nickname?&#8221;<br \/>\n<br \/>I read that, and burst into tears.  Yes, I was 8.5 months pregnant and a touch weepy, but even then, the crying caught me off guard.  Each time I checked comments or reread your advice, I had the same teary response.   <\/p>\n<p>Edgar still seemed like a big, clunky name for my wee baby, so I wasn&#8217;t completely sold until my son arrived.  From the first moment, he looked exactly like my dad.  I was flush with emotion and love for my family.  And so he is Edgar &#8211; the FIFTH in our family line.  (if you&#8217;re wondering how that works, we&#8217;re a mom-kid family &#8211; hence my son has the same last name as me and my dad) <\/p>\n<p>His middle name is Graysen, and that&#8217;s what everyone calls him. Fits him beautifully, and my dad, Edgar Gray (not Grey, as I wrote earlier), is so tickled with his little namesake.   <\/p>\n<p>Thanks again!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tricia writes: My first child, a boy, is due August 14, and I am in desperate need of your expertise and ideas. My last name is pronounced &#8220;ING-grum.&#8221; We are going to be a Mom-Kid family, so using a name that connects to the males in my family tree holds great appeal but there are [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6704","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-name-update"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3iyiG-1K8","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6704","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6704"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6704\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6704"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6704"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6704"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}