{"id":6660,"date":"2010-09-17T08:35:00","date_gmt":"2010-09-17T12:35:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2010\/09\/17\/baby-naming-issue-evelyn-and-how-to-tell-if-a-name-will-get-popular\/"},"modified":"2010-09-17T08:35:00","modified_gmt":"2010-09-17T12:35:00","slug":"baby-naming-issue-evelyn-and-how-to-tell-if-a-name-will-get-popular","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2010\/09\/17\/baby-naming-issue-evelyn-and-how-to-tell-if-a-name-will-get-popular\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Naming Issue: Evelyn, and How to Tell if a Name Will Get Popular"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Kate writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I am due with a baby at the end of September.  My question is a little different since I think my husband and I have settled on names.  (We don&#8217;t know the sex of the baby so we have a boy and girl name picked.)  I am curious if you have any thoughts or insight on &#8220;up and coming&#8221; baby names.  You know the ones &#8211; they are out of the top 100 for years and then suddenly from no where start making huge jumps in popularity.  The reason I&#8217;m asking is that we&#8217;ve basically decided on Evelyn if our baby is a girl.  I love this name and loved that it was familiar but not common.  Well, when looking at the past few years it&#8217;s really jumped up the list!  The social security website shows that it is #39 in popularity, but less than 1% of the total babies born.  So how &#8220;popular&#8221; does it really make that name?  Do you think a name that is trending up in popularity, like Evelyn, will likely make it to the top ten?  Like I said, this isn&#8217;t your typical question, but I thought it was something interesting to talk about.  I&#8217;m sure this is something you&#8217;ve thought about, and I&#8217;d be interested in hearing your take on it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I think there are some things to watch for:<\/p>\n<p>1.  The first is the most obvious:  <span>big leaps on the chart<\/span>.  Like, not just a steady increase in popularity (#100, then #95, then #90) but from not even on the chart to #800, then the next year to #400, then the next year to #200.  FAST increases mean that most people don&#8217;t know yet that the name is rising.  I think of the name Isabella as the classic example:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_FIK4Je7TAiQ\/TJN6Zl7X54I\/AAAAAAAADB0\/JZlA-2Zut-k\/s1600\/Picture+1.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_FIK4Je7TAiQ\/TJN6Zl7X54I\/AAAAAAAADB0\/JZlA-2Zut-k\/s400\/Picture+1.png\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\"><\/a><br \/>It wasn&#8217;t even in the Top 1000 from 1949 until 1990, and THEN look at it go!  (Information and screen shot from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ssa.gov\/OACT\/babynames\/\">the Social Security Administration<\/a>.) We have friends who named their daughter Isabella in 2001, thinking it was a highly unusual choice&#8212;because in 2001, only hospital\/daycare workers and SSA site fans knew how common it was.<\/p>\n<p>2.  <span>Feeling like the name is a discovery.<\/span>  If the name feels like a dusty treasure, other people are probably feeling the same way.  This happens especially with names that have been out of style for awhile&#8212;but WERE in style before:  Henry, Oliver, Emma.<\/p>\n<p>3.  <span>A smack of freshness.<\/span>  If the name has the feeling of surprise&#8212;but PLEASANT surprise&#8212;it&#8217;s feeling that way to a lot of other people too.  This happens especially with names that haven&#8217;t been in style before, or have been in style for the other sex:  Avery, Emerson, Cadence, Juniper, Braden.<\/p>\n<p>4.  <span>A pleasing tie-in.<\/span>  I&#8217;ve mentioned before how people credit Charlotte&#8217;s Web for their choice of Charlotte for a baby girl&#8212;but my guess is that most people thought of the name first and the tie-in second (otherwise I&#8217;d expect to see Fern and Wilbur likewise increasing in popularity).  The tie-in is what pushed them from &#8220;What a great name!&#8221; to &#8220;Let&#8217;s use it!&#8221;  This is also what makes great-grandparent names appealing:  the name is already coming back into style, and so it catches people&#8217;s attention when they see in their family trees (and, as with Charlotte&#8217;s Web, the names in the family tree that are NOT yet coming back into style go unnoticed).<\/p>\n<p>Numbers 2 and 3 are very similar and have some overlap.  One reason I separate them is that I think it&#8217;s far safer to use dusty treasures than to use fresh smacks:  if you were to use the name Henry and then it got to the top ten, it almost wouldn&#8217;t matter because the name Henry has come and gone many times and is always a sturdy choice even if it&#8217;s not in fashion.  Whereas if you choose Madison or Caden, it could be a different story depending on what the name does in the future.  This is the difference between a name that &#8220;gets popular&#8221; and a name that &#8220;gets trendy.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I SUSPECT that the reason Evelyn is coming into style is all the parents looking for alternatives to Ava and Eva and Ella and Emma, combined with Evelyn having a rhythm that happens to match other favorites Isabelle, Abigail, Emily, Madison, and so on.  BUT, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/dp\/0767917529\/ref=nosim\/?tag=88K18-20\">The Baby Name Wizard<\/a> has talked extensively about &#8220;the 100-year cycle&#8221; (which is why great-grandparent names like Emma and Henry are so appealing while parent names like Barbara and Jerry aren&#8217;t&#8212;until our grandchildren are choosing baby names), and although Evelyn has never gone totally out of style, it was last in the top ten in 1915.  It&#8217;s Evelyn&#8217;s time again.<\/p>\n<p>Considering Evelyn&#8217;s enduring popularity (it hasn&#8217;t even slipped out of the 200s since 1915), combined with it getting toward its 100-year mark, combined with what we can see it doing on the charts (not leaps, no, but a pretty fast upward climb after 50 years of not even being in the top 100)&#8212;I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see it in the top ten soon.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_FIK4Je7TAiQ\/TJOA7Kd9FRI\/AAAAAAAADB8\/_rdin1twkqI\/s1600\/Picture+5.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/_FIK4Je7TAiQ\/TJOA7Kd9FRI\/AAAAAAAADB8\/_rdin1twkqI\/s400\/Picture+5.png\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, I also wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to NOT see it in the top ten.  Because plenty of names go up, up, up&#8212;and then stop:  maybe in the 40s, maybe in the 20s, but never getting to the top ten.  The names find their exact balance of being popular enough to be familiar and well-liked by the general population, but not so popular to discourage people from using it.<\/p>\n<p>In any case, I feel about Evelyn the way I do about the name Henry:  if it DOES go top ten, you&#8217;ll still have made a solid choice, not a trendy one.<\/p>\n<p>Now, as to how popular a #39 name really is.  If a name were evenly distributed across the entire United States, this would be pretty easy to figure out.  At #39, the name Evelyn was given to approximately .28% of all baby girls, which means there are approximately 28 Evelyns per 10,000 girls born in that year.  If a classroom has 30 children in it, and half are girls, there will be approximately 1 girl named Evelyn per 24 classrooms.  Well, goodness, that&#8217;s not bad at all!  That&#8217;s positively RARE.  And yet, doing that same math tells us there&#8217;s only 1 Isabella per 6-7 classrooms, and GOODNESS it feels more popular than that&#8212;not only because of all the Isabelles and Isabels we&#8217;ve failed to take into account, but also because of regional popularity differences:  if some regions barely use the name at all for whatever reason, this makes for many more Isabellas in the other areas.  And it&#8217;ll be the same with Evelyns.<\/p>\n<p>One of my sons has a name that was approximately as popular as the name Evelyn, the year he was born.  But if I&#8217;d consulted the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ssa.gov\/OACT\/babynames\/state\/index.html\">by state<\/a> information, I would have seen it was in the top ten in our state.  Evelyn is #100 in New Mexico, #98 in South Carolina, #96 in Rhode Island, #89 in Connecticut, #88 in South Dakota, #86 in Oklahoma, #83 in Florida, #81 in Pennsylvania&#8212;but #27 in Texas, #25 in California and Oregon, #24 in Illinois and Vermont, #23 in Colorado, #21 in Minnesota in Washington, #20 in D.C., #18 in Wisconsin.  And in Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, and West Virginia, it&#8217;s not even in the top 100.  So of course it depends too on where you live&#8212;and where you might move, and where SHE might move as an adult!  (Do you feel like running screaming into the sea yet?)<\/p>\n<p>There can also be odd little quirks:  the name Noah was #24 in 1999 (approximately .73%) when my first son was born, which SHOULD mean there&#8217;d be about one Noah per 9 classrooms.  And yet TWO school years, he&#8217;s had two Noahs in his class, and I think only one school year had no Noahs.  It&#8217;s the SAME Noahs:  the statistics show a nice even distribution, but it happens that there are two Noahs in his grade instead of the expected less-than-one Noah, and it happens he&#8217;s been put into a classroom with one or both of them almost every year.  The same could happen with Evelyns.<\/p>\n<p>Er, I seem to have gotten a little carried away, but you&#8217;ve brought up one of my totally favorite subjects, and one I never get tired of talking about because there IS no way to predict these things, and isn&#8217;t that WEIRD that there isn&#8217;t??<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kate writes: I am due with a baby at the end of September. My question is a little different since I think my husband and I have settled on names. (We don&#8217;t know the sex of the baby so we have a boy and girl name picked.) 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