{"id":6579,"date":"2010-11-08T08:28:00","date_gmt":"2010-11-08T12:28:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2010\/11\/08\/baby-girl-right-sister-to-ronan-joss\/"},"modified":"2014-07-04T16:21:31","modified_gmt":"2014-07-04T20:21:31","slug":"baby-girl-right-sister-to-ronan-joss","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2010\/11\/08\/baby-girl-right-sister-to-ronan-joss\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Girl Right, Sister to Ronan Joss"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Melissa writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We had no real trouble naming our first child. I guess to be more accurate, I had no trouble coming up with names for our first child, my husband would veto, we batted around a list for a while and finally came up with something we both love that really fits. Our last name is Right, but with a W. Our son is Ronan Joss. The first name is something we both just liked after a lot of debate, and the middle name is a family name to honor my husband&#8217;s grandmother, who passed away before our son was born. We had a decent sized list of leftovers for another boy&#8230;so of course the baby we&#8217;re expecting in December is a girl!<\/p>\n<p>We are stumped for girl names. Like last time, I am in charge of coming up with ideas, my husband is in charge of naysaying. I know that we would like to use Elle for a middle name, to honor both of my grandmothers (Ellen and Eleanor). So here is my list of first name prospects, with explanations:<\/p>\n<p>Saoirse&#8211;I really like this name but fear that she would be telling people how to say it and spell it for the rest of her life, and I think that&#8217;s a dealbreaker. My husband dislikes this one for the same reason.<\/p>\n<p>Mila (pronounced MEE-la)&#8211;might sound funny with Elle, is getting super popular. I don&#8217;t wanna go too &#8220;out there&#8221; but want to avoid the super popular. My name was top 1 or 2 for my birthyear and there were a million in every class growing up. Also a little concerned about the initial problem&#8211;MEW? I am not a fan of initials that spell things.<\/p>\n<p>Annika\/Anya&#8211;like these ones but also showing a scary spike in popularity in the last couple years. My husband likes the similar but even more popular Amelia.<\/p>\n<p>Considering something in the neighborhood of Serena, Selena, Sela, Sabina, Sabrina. I like Sabina the best of these, and I think it sounds good with Elle. The last time it was really popular was 1918. My husband thinks it&#8217;s weird but I really like it. I don&#8217;t mind SEW as initials so much.<\/p>\n<p>Isadora&#8211;I vacillate between loving this one and thinking it&#8217;s weird. Plus with Isabella being basically the most popular name ever, and the most likely nickname being &#8220;Izzy,&#8221; I&#8217;m really on the fence about it. I guess the nickname could be &#8220;Zora&#8221; or something, but that is also less than ideal in my opinion. The other problem I have with this one is the &#8220;too many R sounds&#8221; problem. Say it&#8211; Isadora Right. I like the idea of this one but it just doesn&#8217;t sound right.<\/p>\n<p>Scarlet&#8211;Cute but too associated with &#8220;gone with the wind?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I kinda like Penelope, Calliope, things in that neighborhood, still kicking those around. Really like Penny &amp; Callie as nicknames too. Penelope is getting a little too popular though.<\/p>\n<p>I also kinda like Maren or Marin but those are too close to my mother&#8217;s name (Marion) and thus pretty much out.<\/p>\n<p>I have come up with two fairly strong recent contenders that might take some convincing for my husband&#8211;Gemma and Carys. I think Carys also has a bit of that pronunciation problem (will people think it&#8217;s &#8220;Care-eez?&#8221; I would pronounce it &#8220;CARE-is.&#8221;)<\/p>\n<p>I obviously wanting to avoid anything cheesily holiday themed, the poor kid is never going to have a birthday party being so close to Christmas anyway, so no Holly, Noel, or anything of that ilk. Friends who are also pregnant right now with a girl are using Zoe, so that&#8217;s out. I kinda like Lucinda but Lucy is so popular and I&#8217;m only lukewarm on it anyway. I like Isla but other friends just named their baby that so it&#8217;s also out. I want to avoid anything that that ends with an R because I think it sounds weird with our last name. Help!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<br \/>\nOh, I am a little sad about no holiday names! I love those for December babies. My favorite is Eve, because it&#8217;s a great name but I don&#8217;t think it instantly calls the holidays to mind.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, in that case my first suggestion is to use Elle as the first name. Or Ella: Ella Marion Right would be so pretty. But I realize Ella is probably too common for you to want to use it as a first name, and the initials EW are unfortunate.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think you need to worry about there being a million in every class of any name. The top ten of THIS year are way way way less common than the top ten of our birth years. Ella, a name I think you should consider despite its popularity, was in 2009 given to less than half a percent of baby girls&#8212;or one Ella per thirteen classrooms. Even Isabella, the number one most popular girl name in the U.S., was only given to 1.1% of baby girls&#8212;or one Isabella per six classrooms. (Source for all this mathy stuff: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ssa.gov\/OACT\/babynames\/\">Social Security Administration<\/a>.) Of course, regional stuff screws up all these numbers: taking anything national and telling you it&#8217;ll apply to your daughter&#8217;s single elementary school would be misleading. Which on the flip side means there could be two Scarlets in her class.<\/p>\n<p>And in any case I take your gist, which is that you&#8217;d rather avoid common names. And so my next suggestion is that you avoid Elle and go instead directly to Ellen. (I&#8217;d suggest going directly to Eleanor, but its popularity is rising as people realize they can get the nickname Ellie AND the nickname Nora from it.) Ellen is uncommon (#700 in 2009, and falling) and lovely: Ellen Right. Ellen Saoirse Right or Ellen Mila Right. Ronan and Ellen. I do wish that this didn&#8217;t give the initials EW.<\/p>\n<p>Or, go ahead and use Annika: it was getting more popular for awhile, and I would have said it was a good bet for getting even more popular&#8212;but then it stopped, and now it&#8217;s getting less and less common.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_10112\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10112\" src=\"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/AnnikaData.png\" alt=\"(screenshot from SSA.gov)\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" class=\"size-full wp-image-10112\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/AnnikaData.png 400w, https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/AnnikaData-150x112.png 150w, https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/AnnikaData-300x225.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-10112\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">(screenshot from SSA.gov)<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Annika Ellen Right, maybe, or Annika Eleanor Right, or Annika Sabina Right. Ronan and Annika. Initials AW, which is better than EW.<\/p>\n<p>Of the S names, my favorite is Sabrina, which is #214 and falling.<\/p>\n<p>When I looked up Saoirse to get the pronunciation (SEER-shuh), one of the first hits was <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Saoirse_Ronan\">Saoirse Ronan<\/a>. Perhaps Sasha? Anastasia?<\/p>\n<p>I think Carys would work fine. Some people might need help pronouncing it the first time, but I&#8217;ll bet most people know it.<\/p>\n<p>Scarlet is at this point associated as much with Scarlett Johannson as with Scarlett O&#8217;Hara&#8212;but a bigger problem, I think, is its popularity: the spelling Scarlet is #610 and rising, but Scarlett is #169 and rising even faster (900s to 100s in 8 years).<\/p>\n<p>Other unusual Celtic possibilities:<\/p>\n<p>Bronwyn (not in the top 1000)<br \/>\nCliona (not in the top 1000)<br \/>\nFlannery (not in the top 1000)<br \/>\nGwendolyn (#585 in 2009 and holding pretty steady)<br \/>\nIone (#938 and falling)<br \/>\nRiona (not in the top 1000)<br \/>\nTamsin (not in the top 1000)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Name update!<\/strong> Melissa writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Baby Girl (W)right was finally born on 12\/26\/10! We had chosen Carys Elena, but it still didn&#8217;t sound right to me somehow. Decided as my husband was sending out the announcement to go with Carys Eleanor and I think it suits her nicely. Thanks for the help everyone!<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/BabyRight.jpg\" alt=\"BabyRight\" width=\"225\" height=\"376\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-10113\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/BabyRight.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/BabyRight-89x150.jpg 89w, https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/11\/BabyRight-179x300.jpg 179w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Melissa writes: We had no real trouble naming our first child. I guess to be more accurate, I had no trouble coming up with names for our first child, my husband would veto, we batted around a list for a while and finally came up with something we both love that really fits. 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