{"id":6091,"date":"2012-09-14T07:33:00","date_gmt":"2012-09-14T11:33:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2012\/09\/14\/baby-girl-or-boy-nawcan-sibling-to-josih-and-audrey\/"},"modified":"2014-06-18T11:18:38","modified_gmt":"2014-06-18T15:18:38","slug":"baby-girl-or-boy-nawcan-sibling-to-josih-and-audrey","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2012\/09\/14\/baby-girl-or-boy-nawcan-sibling-to-josih-and-audrey\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Girl or Boy Nawcan, Sibling to Josi@h and Audrey"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jocelyn writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I recently found your wonderful blog and need your help! We always keep our baby names a secret until baby arrives so it would be great to get some unbiased opinions.<\/p>\n<p>We are expecting baby #3\u00a0 (probably our last) at the end of September (27th).\u00a0 We don\u2019t know the gender but are pretty happy with the name Katherine Olivia if it is a girl.\u00a0 (We\u2019d call her Kate.)\u00a0 I\u2019ve always liked the name Kate and it works out that my husband\u2019s mom and her mom are both named Catherine so it would be kind of an homage to them.\u00a0 The boy name has been harder for us to settle on though.\u00a0 Our last name is Cajun with a funny spelling and pronounced like Naw-can.\u00a0 Our oldest son is Josi@h Kenneth.\u00a0 We liked the name Josi@h and also the biblical story behind it and his middle name is after my husband who is a Jr.\u00a0 Our daughter is Audrey J@cquelyn.\u00a0 I\u2019ve loved the name Audrey forever and her middle name is my mom\u2019s name.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve always had issues coming up with boy names.\u00a0 Part of it is that we\u2019ve tried to avoid having a name that ends with N since our last name starts and ends with N but it seems a lot of the boy names I like end with an N.\u00a0 Also, both of our first kids had a middle name in honor of family but there really aren\u2019t any male names in our family that we like.\u00a0 So, if we have a boy would he and the rest of the family wonder why he doesn\u2019t have a family connection?<\/p>\n<p>The top name we have picked out right now for a boy is William Hudson.\u00a0 Here are some of my issues with it.<\/p>\n<p>My first two kids\u2019 names don\u2019t really \u201cgo together\u201d but would this be another type of name that doesn\u2019t go with the others?\u00a0 Is there some name out there that would bridge the two sibling names?\u00a0 I also worry that William is too common or maybe too serious.<\/p>\n<p>We like Hudson and also have read about a missionary to China from the 1800\u2019s named Hudson Taylor that we\u2019d be happy to have him named after.\u00a0 So, maybe there is a very loose biblical theme there to go with Josi@h? (of course people would only know if we told them)<\/p>\n<p>Some other names that I like but have issues like ending in N etc. are:<\/p>\n<p>Jude \u2013 don\u2019t know if having two of the three names being very biblical and also starting with J would be weird.\u00a0 Also my name starts with a J.<br \/>\nSawyer<br \/>\nJack (the problem with this one is our cat is named Jack)<br \/>\nAiden<br \/>\nColin<br \/>\nBenjamin (My husband is Ken so Ben and Ken would rhyme)<br \/>\nAs you can see I\u2019m all over the place.\u00a0 Do you have any suggestions?\u00a0 I\u2019d love all of your insights.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks so much!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Families vary considerably in how noticey they are about baby names. I have five children, three of whom have family middle names and two of whom don&#8217;t, and I would bet cash money that not a single one of my relatives (other than my parents, who had to hear all about the choices) even knows what the kids&#8217; middle names ARE, let alone has given any concerned thought to whether one child&#8217;s name matches the significance of another child&#8217;s. Yet we also do hear stories of families who tally up the family names and get wounded and huffy if more are used from one side than the other, so you&#8217;ll have to look at your own families and consider whether they would be more the type to talk at length behind your back about your children&#8217;s middle names, or whether they&#8217;d be more the type to hear the name and give it almost no thought at all beyond whether they liked it or not.<\/p>\n<p>Children will also vary considerably in how sensitive they are to their names. In my own family, I&#8217;ve found all four boy children almost completely bored by talk of how they got their names or what the significance is. The girl child enjoys discussing it, but has not been at all peeved so far that her middle name isn&#8217;t a family name. Perhaps all this will change as they get older and there will be giant fights about how obviously mom and dad preferred the three who have family names&#8212;but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s likely. Yet we also hear stories of grown adults claiming to still have hurt feelings from their parents&#8217; name choices, so it may completely depend on the child and his\/her personality.<\/p>\n<p>I think much of it is spin: if there&#8217;s no reason for the child without a family name to feel unwanted or otherwise out of favor or not a part of the family, not having a family middle name doesn&#8217;t mean anything except that you ran out of family names you wanted to us. If he expresses interest, or if you&#8217;re telling them the story of their names, his story is that by the time he was born there were no family names left you loved enough to give him, so you chose Name X, which you loved because of this\/that reason.<\/p>\n<p>Of my two children who don&#8217;t have family middle names, one of them has a name that is nevertheless of sentimental significance; when I force them to listen to their naming stories, I feel like that story holds up very well next to the &#8220;Well, your middle name was my grandpa&#8217;s name&#8221; story. The final child&#8217;s middle name has no real significance other than that it was her daddy&#8217;s favorite name before we came up with a name we both liked better; he couldn&#8217;t stand not to use his favorite, so we used it as her middle name. That story gets a favorable reaction too, as it turns out; the important thing, I think, is to show enthusiasm for the choice, and have an approximately equal amount of it for each child&#8217;s name. &#8220;Well, YOUR name was because X! And YOUR name was because Y!,&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;Well, YOUR name was because X and Y and Z! And YOUR name&#8230;.eh, we just liked it, I guess.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Another possibility for a middle name is to look at family surnames: this lets you look at the women in the family as well as the men, and surnames can make very dashing middle names.<\/p>\n<p>I think the name you&#8217;ve picked out is great. William avoids the N-ending, and both boys have a good nickname if they want it, and Joe and Will go great together which I think helps form the bridge you&#8217;re looking for. And Hudson is a name that can be worked into a very nice story of significance.<\/p>\n<p>The rest of the names on the list don&#8217;t seem as good with the sibling names, or else have the N-ending, or else I agree with the other reasons you mention for not using them.<\/p>\n<p>Because it&#8217;s fairly common for a family to have a different style preference for girl names than for boy names, I think you could continue with biblical boy names without worrying about leaving Audrey out. But I would avoid the J names, to avoid confusion and also to avoid a second theme Audrey wouldn&#8217;t fit into.<\/p>\n<p>Paul Nawcan; Josi@h, Audrey, and Paul<br \/>\nEzra Nawcan; Josi@h, Audrey, and Ezra<br \/>\nMicah Nawcan; Josi@h, Audrey, and Micah<br \/>\nDavid Nawcan; Josi@h, Audrey, and David<br \/>\nThomas Nawcan; Josi@h, Audrey, and Thomas<br \/>\nSamuel Nawcan; Josi@h, Audrey, and Samuel<br \/>\nIsaac Nawcan; Josi@h, Audrey, and Isaac<br \/>\nCaleb Nawcan; Josi@h, Audrey, and Caleb<br \/>\nDaniel Nawcan; Josi@h, Audrey, and Daniel<br \/>\nPhilip Nawcan; Josi@h, Audrey, and Philip<\/p>\n<p>My favorites, I think, are the names we barely even think of as biblical anymore: those are the ones that make good bridge names, because they seem timeless like Audrey, while still being biblical like Josi@h. I also favor the ones that, like Josi@h, have a good nickname: Joe and Sam, Joe and Dan, etc.<\/p>\n<p><b><\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Name update!<\/b> Jocelyn writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Well, as I suspected we ended up having a boy!\u00a0 Thanks to the great advice and encouragement from you and your readers we decided to go ahead and name him William Hudson.\u00a0 You all helped me not feel bad about the name not having a family connection like his siblings and feel like the sibling names weren&#8217;t too terribly mismatched.\u00a0 I do wish it weren&#8217;t so high on the popularity list but at least it is a classic name and not trendy so it won&#8217;t feel out of date in a few years.\u00a0 I did love the suggestions of using a biblical name that didn&#8217;t sound too biblical as a bridge between Josiah and Audrey but many of the names were already used in the family so they were out.\u00a0 Thank you to everyone for your encouragement and input!\u00a0 We still weren&#8217;t 100 percent sure we would name him that when he was born but he was a very punctual little boy by showing up on his due date so I figured a name like William would fit him well.\u00a0 He was born on Sept. 27th at 8 lbs 14 oz.\u00a0 He was 20 3\/4 inches long.\u00a0 Here&#8217;s a picture of him when he was almost 4 months old.<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-9403\" src=\"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Screen-shot-2014-06-18-at-11.17.06-AM-300x200.png\" alt=\"Screen shot 2014-06-18 at 11.17.06 AM\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Screen-shot-2014-06-18-at-11.17.06-AM-300x200.png 300w, https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Screen-shot-2014-06-18-at-11.17.06-AM-150x100.png 150w, https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Screen-shot-2014-06-18-at-11.17.06-AM.png 337w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jocelyn writes: I recently found your wonderful blog and need your help! We always keep our baby names a secret until baby arrives so it would be great to get some unbiased opinions. We are expecting baby #3\u00a0 (probably our last) at the end of September (27th).\u00a0 We don\u2019t know the gender but are pretty [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6091","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-name-update"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3iyiG-1Af","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6091","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6091"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6091\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9405,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6091\/revisions\/9405"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6091"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6091"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6091"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}