{"id":6069,"date":"2012-10-12T08:50:00","date_gmt":"2012-10-12T12:50:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2012\/10\/12\/baby-girl-or-boy-shafer-sibling-to-lily-grayce\/"},"modified":"2012-10-12T08:50:00","modified_gmt":"2012-10-12T12:50:00","slug":"baby-girl-or-boy-shafer-sibling-to-lily-grayce","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2012\/10\/12\/baby-girl-or-boy-shafer-sibling-to-lily-grayce\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Girl or Boy Shafer, Sibling to Lily Grayce"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jessica writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>So we have a baby naming dilemma &#8211; so much so that my dear husband keeps saying, &#8220;well, we have 10 days after the baby is born&#8230;&#8221;<br \/>Yikes! <\/p>\n<p>Our last name is pronounced Shafer. We have one daughter, Lily Grayce. We used Grayce with a &#8216;y&#8217; in honor of good friends, and the mum happens to be British, so the &#8220;y&#8221; version is the popular spelling. We&#8217;re not too concerned about popularity, and prefer that over odd spellings and unheard-of names. Where we live &#8220;Lily&#8221; is not all that popular, despite it sitting high on the charts, we know one other Lily who is about 5 years older than ours.<br \/>My husband&#8217;s name is Eric and my name is Jess(ica) but as I usually go by the shorter, we all end up with four letter names with distinct letters &#8211; this makes it easy and neat, and we like it, but we&#8217;re not stuck on 4 letters. We do prefer to have different initials at least between siblings and preferably the whole family. We&#8217;d love to have 4 kids at least if life allows, so we&#8217;re trying not to get into too much of a pattern &#8211; hence we&#8217;re not wanting to go with another &#8220;L&#8221; name for fear of having either all &#8220;L&#8221; names (tricky) or changing after kid 1&#038;2 which feels odd. We also don&#8217;t want to get into a pattern of &#8220;y&#8221; or &#8220;ie&#8221; endings. It seems like &#8220;er&#8221; ending names clash with our last name, so we&#8217;re not having luck there either &#8211; between the &#8220;y&#8221;\/&#8221;ie&#8221; and the &#8220;er&#8221; that knocks out a lot of names!<br \/>We&#8217;re not finding out what we&#8217;re having this time, but we already have our options fairly settled for boy names, it&#8217;s girls we need help with!<\/p>\n<p>We do tend to favor shorter names, and if we were to chose a longer name we would likely use a 1-2 syllable nickname on a daily basis. We even cut Lily down to &#8220;Lils..&#8221; a lot, so we&#8217;re pretty lazy..!<br \/>We love Ruby, but it keeps us in the &#8220;y&#8221; ending&#8230; also considering Claire\/Clara, Pearl, Olive (but not Olivia), and Sage. <br \/>I like Stella, Astrid, and Hazel, but my husband was not convinced. He has no ideas of his own. Our 2.5 year old would like to call the baby &#8220;Baby Poptart.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>We like Jade, but don&#8217;t like the meaning. We have also avoided short R girl names due to a close in age girl cousin named a variation of Ryan and a close friend named Roma, tho we are willing to bend on that for the perfect name! We&#8217;ve discarded flower names as well due to not wanting an obvious garden&#8230; but we&#8217;re ok with plant and nature names.<\/p>\n<p>If it helps, our top boy names are Milo, Jude, and Rowan, which would likely be paired with the middle name of Ellis, tho we&#8217;re not decided by any means&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Can you save our 2nd kiddo from being &#8220;Baby Poptart&#8221; forever?\u00a0<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>and<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>4-8 weeks to go (depending on who you ask and how long this one likes to bake) but still no settling on a name! We have some updates and changes tho, so perhaps you&#8217;ll be up for helping &#8211; pretty pretty please? :D<br \/>We&#8217;re down to boy&#8217;s names Milo or West, which obviously have very different feels to them. We did favor the middle name &#8220;Maxin&#8221; (spelled with an &#8216;o&#8217; not an &#8216;i&#8217;) which is my husband&#8217;s grandmother&#8217;s maiden name, however we&#8217;re not sure about it with our last name (pronounced Shafer). My good friend and name lover greatly dislikes West (not a breaking point) and recommends Weston, but it reminds me of both the TV show Burn Notice and the Weston Price Foundation&#8230; maybe neither are an issue &#8211; thoughts? We have considered playing of my maiden name somehow to make a middle name for West or Weston &#8211; my maiden name is said Ree-mal-ee (spelled simply) so we considered using something like &#8220;Remington&#8221; but are afraid this might sound a bit NRA :) That&#8217;s where we sit with the boys.<br \/>For girl names, we&#8217;ve added a new favorite to the top spot: Gwen. We keep debating different &#8220;Gwen-&#8221; names but keep coming back to Gwen because we&#8217;re certain to shorten it to that for daily use anyway. Finding a middle name here again poses a bit of an issue. My husband suggested Pearl, but then we have GPS.. again, maybe not an issue. I&#8217;m not certain it&#8217;s a great match tho, seems like we need a longer middle to make things flow better and we just can&#8217;t seem to find one that fits.<br \/>Backups to Gwen we&#8217;re still considering are Ella, Elle, Claire, and Ruby (tho we&#8217;re still not fond of adding to the &#8220;-y \/ -ie&#8221; collection.<br \/>Will you give us a much needed hand? <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The name Gwen seems great to me: four letters, but new initial, new ending, new sound. I agree with you: I&#8217;d want a middle name with more than one syllable. I&#8217;d go through the list of names that you liked but didn&#8217;t want to use in the first name slot because they started with L or R or had an -ie\/-y ending. Gwen Ruby Shafer is very nice.<\/p>\n<p>If you like Claire\/Clara but would prefer four letters, I suggest Cora. Cora Shafer; Lily and Cora.<\/p>\n<p>Or Cleo. Cleo Shafer; Lily and Cleo. This wouldn&#8217;t allow for Milo later, though. <\/p>\n<p>If you like Ruby, you might like Ruth. Ruth Shafer; Lily and Ruth.<\/p>\n<p>Or June. June Shafer; Lily and June. <\/p>\n<p>Elle and Ella make me think of Anna. Anna Shafer; Lily and Anna. <\/p>\n<p>I think Gwen is the best one, though.<\/p>\n<p>If the baby is a boy, I favor Milo&#8212;not only because that was one of our finalist names for Henry, and I still have a soft spot for it, but also because it seems to have fewer issues than the name West. I prefer the name West to the name Weston, but the name West has the unfortunate issue of making names sound like towns: West Shafer. I also find the transition between -st and Sh- a little difficult to say: I end up with something like Wes Chafer.<\/p>\n<p>I like Westley best as a longer form: that would still give you the four-letter nickname West, while also impressing fans of The Princess Bride AND removing associations with foundations and towns. It does give you another -ly name, but I think two in a row is a surmountable pattern, especially since one is a boy and one is a girl. (It&#8217;s three in a row where I think it&#8217;s nearly impossible to resist the pressure.)<\/p>\n<p>But Milo avoids all these issues, so that&#8217;s what I&#8217;d go with. Milo Shafer is wonderful; Lily and Milo is wonderful. I like Maxin fine with your surname, or I like the idea of using your maiden name as-is: Milo Maxin Shafer or Milo Reemalee Shafer. I prefer Maxin, because I&#8217;d prefer to avoid the initials MRS. If the actual spelling of your maiden name looks feminine, it would be nice for a girl: Gwen Reemalee Shafer.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jessica writes: So we have a baby naming dilemma &#8211; so much so that my dear husband keeps saying, &#8220;well, we have 10 days after the baby is born&#8230;&#8221;Yikes! Our last name is pronounced Shafer. We have one daughter, Lily Grayce. We used Grayce with a &#8216;y&#8217; in honor of good friends, and the mum [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6069","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3iyiG-1zT","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6069","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6069"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6069\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6069"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6069"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6069"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}