{"id":6062,"date":"2012-10-19T08:59:00","date_gmt":"2012-10-19T12:59:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2012\/10\/19\/baby-naming-issue-olive-bruce\/"},"modified":"2014-06-18T09:38:19","modified_gmt":"2014-06-18T13:38:19","slug":"baby-naming-issue-olive-bruce","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2012\/10\/19\/baby-naming-issue-olive-bruce\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Naming Issue: Olive Bruce"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Erin writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>My husband and I are expecting a baby girl arrival on March 2, 2013. This is our first child and we plan to have 3-4 children. My name is Erin and my husband&#8217;s name is Daniel. Our last name is Bruce. Yes, two first names :) (actually, three if you count the middle name). We have been following your blog since the beginning of my pregnancy and have spent a lot of time tossing around name ideas for the baby &#8211; thanks for making this so much fun!<\/p>\n<p>Ok, here&#8217;s the current dilemma. My husband and I have had a feeling we were having a girl since we discovered I was pregnant. We fell in love the name Olive. We like it for various reasons &#8230; the sound of it, the strong feeling it gives, the non-traditional feel while still being pretty, the biblical connotation of Olive coming from the olive tree meaning peace, etc. We began calling the baby &#8220;olive seed&#8221; once we found out about the pregnancy. This was great until we started saying the full potential name out loud &#8220;Olive Bruce&#8221; &#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><b>[Note from Swistle: While reading this letter for the first time, I paused here and said the name out loud to see if I would discover the same issue: I wanted to see if it would occur to me if I didn&#8217;t have it planted. I&#8217;m putting a big space here in the letter so you can do the same.] <\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230; and discovered that it might sound too much like olive juice when stated! Ah! I have said the name over and over in my mind so much that I have lost all unbiased and objective view on it. I especially love the full name Olive Amelia Bruce and kind of have my heart set on it. BUT, I want to consider all options for our baby girl and don&#8217;t want to put undue hardship on her by giving her a name that reeks havoc on her Bruce last name. What do you think? Would you eliminate Olive as an option with Bruce as a last name?<\/p>\n<p>The runner-up option right now is Esme. Esme Bruce (not sure on middle name). We love this name, too. I picture a completely different little girl, but I still love it. We have ruled out all first and middle names starting with a B. We also have interest in the following names:<\/p>\n<p>Nell (possibly Penelope with nickname Nell or as a middle name)<br \/>\nEmerson (Emmy)<br \/>\nSinclair (Claire)<br \/>\nDree<br \/>\nLowen<br \/>\nHarlow<br \/>\nElodie<\/p>\n<p>Basically, we are all over the map. Names we would use if the baby was a boy: Julian (Jules), Elliot, Pierce, William. Any help is MUCH appreciated.<\/p>\n<p>THANK YOU!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In my opinion, Olive Bruce does not sound too much like olive juice. When I was first reading your letter, I got to &#8220;This was great until we started saying the full potential name out loud&#8230;,&#8221; and I deliberately looked away from the letter and said the name out loud&#8212;and couldn&#8217;t figure out what the issue was without reading on.<\/p>\n<p>The main thing for me, I think, is that &#8220;olive juice&#8221; is not a thing I would say. I&#8217;d say &#8220;olive brine&#8221;&#8212;and olive brine doesn&#8217;t come up in conversation very often. If the name in question was Apple Bruce, or if the name sounded like orange juice or lemon juice, or if I had more opportunities to refer to olive brine and also frequently called it olive juice instead of olive brine, I might feel differently.<\/p>\n<p>Also, if I were saying &#8220;olive juice,&#8221; I&#8217;d emphasize it differently than if I were saying the name Olive Bruce: I&#8217;d put more emphasis on the first syllable of the word olive and under-emphasize the word juice: I&#8217;d be saying it adjective-noun instead of name-name.<\/p>\n<p>Also-also, even if other people thought it sounded like olive juice, olive juice is not a negative thing. It would be different if the name sounded like something really awful or embarrassing, but saying &#8220;Ha ha, your name sounds like olive juice!&#8221; or &#8220;Olive Bruce, olive juice!&#8221; seems like low-impact teasing.<\/p>\n<p>But if you decide against Olive, Esme is also a wonderful name.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s have a poll over to the right to see what everyone else thinks. [Poll closed; see results below.]<\/p>\n<p><b>Poll results for &#8220;Olive Bruce (read post first)&#8221;<\/b> (533 votes total):<\/p>\n<p>I thought of the issue; it&#8217;s a deal-breaker &#8211; 45 votes (8%)<br \/>\nI thought of the issue; it&#8217;s not a deal-breaker &#8211; 42 votes (8%)<br \/>\nI thought of the issue; I can&#8217;t decide &#8211; 27 votes (5%)<br \/>\nI didn&#8217;t think of the issue; it&#8217;s a deal-breaker &#8211; 12 votes (2%)<br \/>\nI didn&#8217;t think of the issue; it&#8217;s not a deal-breaker &#8211; 375 votes (70%)<br \/>\nI didn&#8217;t think of the issue; I can&#8217;t decide &#8211; 32 votes (6%)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Erin writes: My husband and I are expecting a baby girl arrival on March 2, 2013. This is our first child and we plan to have 3-4 children. My name is Erin and my husband&#8217;s name is Daniel. Our last name is Bruce. Yes, two first names :) (actually, three if you count the middle [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6062","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3iyiG-1zM","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6062","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6062"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6062\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9382,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6062\/revisions\/9382"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6062"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6062"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6062"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}