{"id":6047,"date":"2012-11-02T13:09:00","date_gmt":"2012-11-02T17:09:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2012\/11\/02\/baby-naming-issue-how-many-repeated-endings-are-okay-per-sibling-group\/"},"modified":"2012-11-02T13:09:00","modified_gmt":"2012-11-02T17:09:00","slug":"baby-naming-issue-how-many-repeated-endings-are-okay-per-sibling-group","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2012\/11\/02\/baby-naming-issue-how-many-repeated-endings-are-okay-per-sibling-group\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Naming Issue: How Many Repeated Endings are Okay Per Sibling Group?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Amy writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<div>My husband and I are sort of in a debate and I think you are the  one who could help us.\u00a0 Although we&#8217;re not expecting our third child  (yet&#8230;that I know of!) we have already been going through the lists of  names that we had for our previous two children and debating whether  they would ever be &#8216;useable&#8217; for us.\u00a0 The problem is endings.\u00a0 We have a  son named Samuel, and my husband likes the name Nathaniel\/Nathanael; I  do as well, but I feel like another &#8216;el&#8217; ending sounds odd.\u00a0 Same with  girl&#8217;s names &#8211; our daughter is Clara, but all the names we like for  girls (Anna, Louisa, Fiona, etc.) are soft-a ending names.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Is there a limit?\u00a0 I mean, how much of one ending can a family handle?\u00a0 Maybe you could do a poll?<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Thanks!<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Oh, interesting! I think it would be difficult to come up with a number answer (&#8220;Two. Two is the limit&#8221;) because there are so many factors:<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 How many children are in the family<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Whether the matching endings are given sequentially or with other children in between<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Whether the matching endings have been given to all the children born so far, or if other endings have also been used<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 How similar\/different the names are in other ways<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 How unusual\/attention-catching the particular ending is<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Whether the children with matched endings are all of the same sex<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Whether the matching endings sound exactly alike<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Whether the matching endings are spelled exactly alike<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Your particular family&#8217;s feelings on how appealing it is to have matchy names <\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Some other hard-to-pin-down factor that we know when we see\/hear it (but which may vary from person\/family to person\/family)<\/p>\n<p>If you had, say, five children, and two of them had names ending in an -en sound, but those children were first and fourth, and one of the children was a boy and the other was a girl, and the ending was spelled -en in one case and -yn in the other case, and one of the names had two syllables and the other had three and the consonant sounds were completely different&#8212;then it seems like it&#8217;s no big deal, and you could even use an -in\/-an\/-en\/-yn name on an additional child without a fuss.<\/p>\n<p>If on the other hand you had two girls named Isabel and Annabel, that already seems like too many -bel endings&#8212;and I&#8217;m not sure it would help to separate them by several other names. Unless of course you LIKED the matching: there are, after all, plenty of families naming sibling sets Madalyn and Madison, or Ella and Emma.<\/p>\n<p>I think what matters most is whether it feels too matchy or attention-grabbing when you&#8217;re saying the list of kids (the definition of &#8220;too&#8221; will vary from person to person). Samuel and Nathaniel sound rhymey\/sing-songy to me because of the similarity of the M and N sounds before the -uel\/-iel, and also because of the similarity of the -uel and -iel sounds themselves. I MIGHT use both names in a family with a lot of children, if there were several children in between: Samuel, Clara, William, Emma, Nathaniel, for example.<\/p>\n<p>For comparison, a name like Paul, while it ends in L like Nathaniel and Samuel, gives me no such urge to increase separation. Samuel and Paul have completely different sounds: the -l ending sounds different, the letters before the -l ending sound different (&#8220;yool\/yul&#8221; vs. &#8220;awl&#8221;), the syllables are different, everything is different. It also helps that there&#8217;d be another child in between: Samuel, Clara, and Paul just sounds like everyone has a pleasing L-sound to tie the names together.<\/p>\n<p>The repeating -a ending seems almost like a non-issue. Many, many names end with -a, and it&#8217;s not very ear-catching or distinctive. With the example of Clara and Anna, they don&#8217;t sound rhymey even though they have the same number of syllables and same emphasis: the letter-sounds before the -a ending are completely different, as are the rest of the sounds in the names. If you wanted to increase the difference, you almost couldn&#8217;t do better than Clara and Fiona\/Louisa: different end-sounds, different syllables, AND different emphasis. If I encountered a family with daughters named Clara, Fiona, Anna, and Louisa, I might notice that they all had -a endings (which I wouldn&#8217;t consider negative), or I might just notice that they were a great sibling group.<\/p>\n<p>If a combination does bother you, there are often options: Samuel and Nathan instead of Samuel and Nathaniel; Clara and Anne\/Annabel instead of Clara and Anna.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Amy writes: My husband and I are sort of in a debate and I think you are the one who could help us.\u00a0 Although we&#8217;re not expecting our third child (yet&#8230;that I know of!) we have already been going through the lists of names that we had for our previous two children and debating whether [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6047","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3iyiG-1zx","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6047","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6047"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6047\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6047"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6047"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6047"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}