{"id":5851,"date":"2011-12-23T10:29:00","date_gmt":"2011-12-23T14:29:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2011\/12\/23\/baby-naming-issue-names-with-negative-word-meanings\/"},"modified":"2011-12-23T10:29:00","modified_gmt":"2011-12-23T14:29:00","slug":"baby-naming-issue-names-with-negative-word-meanings","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2011\/12\/23\/baby-naming-issue-names-with-negative-word-meanings\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Naming Issue: Names With Negative Word Meanings"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Emily writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I absolutely adore your blog and can&#8217;t get enough of baby name talk. An issue has been bothering me for a while and I&#8217;d love to hear what you\/your readers think. One of my favorite names is Rue. This would be a nickname (everyday use) for Ruby which was the name of the beloved matriarch of our family. I love everything about it: the meaning of the full name, how cute it is as a call name and the rarity of it. However, by definition Rue means regret. It&#8217;s not often used anymore except in literature, but is that negative meaning enough to ruin the name? Does the full name &#8220;Ruby&#8221; cancel out that meaning?<\/p>\n<p>Just wondering if you have thoughts on the issue, or perhaps other examples with a similar problem.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for your time!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Ah! Yes! I am interested in this topic too. I am trying to remember when it recently came up. Oh, I remember: I love the names Malcolm and Mallory&#8212;but Mal means bad, and I took Latin.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t put much stock in baby name meanings&#8212;for example, that Emma means &#8220;healer of the universe&#8221; or that Isaac means &#8220;she laughed.&#8221; I give it about as much thought as I&#8217;d give to flower meanings if Paul brought me a bouquet. (&#8220;Bachelor buttons?? Why didn&#8217;t he just TELL me he wanted a divorce?? And why did I marry someone whose name means SMALL?&#8221;) Different baby name books will give completely different meanings for the same name; and some names are retroactively given meanings from religious or mythological sources, but what did the name mean before then?<\/p>\n<p>But when it&#8217;s a WORD meaning, I get more involved. Rue. Mal. Bella. Patience. Hunter. I might still use one, but I&#8217;d consider the issue carefully.<\/p>\n<p>One question is how familiar the word is as a name. We know a lily is a flower, and that gives the name Lily a pleasant floral imagery&#8212;but we&#8217;re very familiar with it as a name. It&#8217;s different if we meet a little girl named Sunflower, or Sapphire.<\/p>\n<p>Another question is how familiar the name is as a word. The name Patience immediately brings the word patience to mind, but we don&#8217;t use the word &#8220;felicitations&#8221; anymore so might not think of it with the name Felicity. Most of us might know that &#8220;bella&#8221; is the word for beautiful in Italy&#8212;but it&#8217;s not the word for beautiful in the U.S. We might know the name Cooper is a tradesman name, but most of us would be hard-pressed to come up with barrel-making; Archer and Sailor are more evocative.<\/p>\n<p>In the case of Ruby\/Rue, I think you&#8217;re in the clear. As you point out, we don&#8217;t use the word rue much anymore (Paul and I still say it because of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.penny-arcade.com\/comic\/2001\/1...\">a Penny Arcade comic strip<\/a>, but we don&#8217;t say it MUCH). And we&#8217;re somewhat familiar with it as a name, and I suspect we&#8217;ll be even more familiar with it as this generation of Ruth\/Ruby babies grow up. And as you also point out, it would be a nickname rather than the given name: naming a boy Malcolm is different than going straight to Mal; naming a girl Isabella is different than going straight to Bella. And it&#8217;s an honor\/namesake name, which gives it a new meaning related to your beloved family matriarch, which I&#8217;d say trumps other meanings.<\/p>\n<p>You could also consider spelling it Ru.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Emily writes: I absolutely adore your blog and can&#8217;t get enough of baby name talk. An issue has been bothering me for a while and I&#8217;d love to hear what you\/your readers think. One of my favorite names is Rue. This would be a nickname (everyday use) for Ruby which was the name of the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5851","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3iyiG-1wn","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5851","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5851"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5851\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5851"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5851"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5851"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}