{"id":15386,"date":"2021-05-05T11:02:51","date_gmt":"2021-05-05T15:02:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/?p=15386"},"modified":"2021-09-10T16:47:53","modified_gmt":"2021-09-10T20:47:53","slug":"baby-girl-garlin-but-with-a-d-at-the-end-and-spelled-like-judy-sister-to-ada","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2021\/05\/05\/baby-girl-garlin-but-with-a-d-at-the-end-and-spelled-like-judy-sister-to-ada\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Girl Garlin (But with a D at the End and Spelled like Judy), Sister to Ada"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p>Hi Swistle,<\/p>\n<p>We are at a crossroads with naming our second daughter and wanted to turn to you and your incredible commenters for help. I\u2019m 21 weeks and the wheels have fallen off of our usual process for naming.<\/p>\n<p>Like many who write in, my husband and I have very different naming styles, but landed on the perfect honor name for our first born, Ada James. Ada is named for my late brother-in-law Adarris, and iconic computer programmer, Ada Lovelace. Middle name James for my great grandfather who was the most gentle, kind, peace-seeking man I\u2019ve ever known, and the Middle initial J honors my husbands late father. An absolute win for both sides of the family.<\/p>\n<p>We had a pregnancy loss at 13 weeks in 2020, her name would have been Ruth Winter (these are honor \/deeply meaningful names as well).<\/p>\n<p>As often happens, we want to have an equally lovely name for our daughter arriving in September. I have utilized Baby Name Wizard and I would describe my naming style as \u201ccharming, vintage, solid citizen.\u201d I would describe my husbands naming style as \u201cgirls in a classroom from 1996.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The system we have used previously is bracket style, we talk through names head to head, moving them forward like it\u2019s March Madness, We get down to two names we love, and decide once we meet her. We\u2019re on our third attempt at this and it just isn\u2019t working. Perhaps the languishing of the pandemic has made this much less fun. We just don\u2019t feel like engaging in the witty banter naming usually brought. I\u2019m hoping you can help put the wind back in our sails or give us some encouragement!<\/p>\n<p>My absolute favorites are:<br \/>\n&#8211; Violet<br \/>\n&#8211; Zara<br \/>\n&#8211; Phillipa\/ Pippa<br \/>\n&#8211; Rosemary<br \/>\n&#8211; Greta<br \/>\n&#8211; Liesl<br \/>\n&#8211; Daphne<\/p>\n<p>My husbands:<br \/>\n&#8211; Sloane<br \/>\n&#8211; Elyse<br \/>\n&#8211; Quinn<br \/>\n&#8211; Emily<br \/>\n&#8211; Maya<br \/>\n&#8211; Cameron<br \/>\n&#8211; Skylar<\/p>\n<p>From my list, he likes Zara, from his list, I like Sloane.<br \/>\nI am a teacher, so I have had a student with every name on his list (including Sloane, but she was a doll) I don\u2019t know if either feel a fit with Ada. I\u2019d also like to stay below the Top 100 if we can.<\/p>\n<p>The middle name will be Scott, after my father who passed away less than a month ago. I\u2019m open to a two middle name situation if it feels right.<\/p>\n<p>Is there a name that bridges our styles that you think we are missing? Should we go for Zara? If we go for Zara, does the Zar- and the Gar- in our last name feel rhymey?<\/p>\n<p>Thank you so much! Looking forward to hearing from you!<\/p>\n<p>Laura<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I hope it is okay to ask if the name Ruth would be usable for this baby. I realize there are circumstances under which it would be, and circumstances under which it would not be; and I also realize that if it WERE usable for you, you likely would have come up with that idea yourself. It&#8217;s just, it&#8217;s such a perfect name. And so I am wondering if there is any sense in which you can see it as a name that would have been given but was NOT given (as so many names on our name lists are, when we decide to go with something else, or when a baby is a boy\/girl so our girl\/boy name goes unused), or if that name feels Given. She could be Ruth Scott. Ada James and Ruth Scott; Ada and Ruth. It&#8217;s a wonderful combination.<\/p>\n<p>Well, on the assumption that that has been ruled out, let&#8217;s look at the other options. I enjoy your descriptions of your naming styles, and I definitely see the gap. It is interesting to note that both Ada and Ruth got through this gap. Do you think it was because they were honor\/significance names? If so, that is the strategy I would lean HARD on this time around. FIND HONOR\/SIGNIFICANCE NAMES.<\/p>\n<p>Now to spend some time picking apart the lists! The matching Zar-\/Gar- sounds of Zara with your surname do not feel nice in my mouth, but that&#8217;s an extremely subjective thing: for someone else, those sounds might make the name click into perfection. I feel similarly about the -lar\/Gar- of Skylar.<\/p>\n<p>I am hesitant about botanical choices: Violet\/Rosemary with your surname sound like something available at a plant nursery. (I also find Violet difficult to say with your surname.) And Greta with your surname brings Greta Garbo strongly to mind: not at all a negative association, but a little bit startling in that &#8220;Why is this name SO INSTANTLY-BUT-NOT-QUITE FAMILIAR?&#8221; kind of way.<\/p>\n<p>Possibly I am in an extra-picky mood this morning, because a lot of the other names also feel difficult\/clunky to say with the surname. Sloane. Cameron. Quinn. Maya. I feel like I have to work to say them. But perhaps I just need another cup of coffee.<\/p>\n<p>Okay! <em>clap clap!<\/em> So now that I have unhelpfully picked things apart, I&#8217;m going to re-recommend going back to honor\/significance names. That seems to be the style you two have in common. If Ruth is not usable, then back to the family tree and the history books.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Name update:<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Hello Swistle &#038; Community! <\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m overjoyed to share our daughter arrived on August 25th. Lucia Clementine (pronounced Lou-sha) 9lbs, 12 oz. <\/p>\n<p>We took your advice and wiped the lists we had and dug up meaningful honor names.<\/p>\n<p>Lucia has very special significance to the women in my immediate family (me, my mom and my sister) along with celebrating St. Lucia day as a child, it was the name of a beloved, magical babysitter we spent time with regularly growing up. St Lucia\u2019s name day is Dec 13th, my birthday is the 14th, my oldest daughters is the 15th, my moms is the 16th. (We can celebrate four in a row!) And most importantly, the story of the holiday is a young girl who brings light to a dark time.  She has done that and more. <\/p>\n<p>Why the change of middle name to Clementine? Ultimately, we ended up choosing the feminine version of my maiden name\/now middle name, so we could honor my whole family, and she and I could share initials. It fits her perfectly. <\/p>\n<p>Thank you for all your help!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi Swistle, We are at a crossroads with naming our second daughter and wanted to turn to you and your incredible commenters for help. I\u2019m 21 weeks and the wheels have fallen off of our usual process for naming. 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