{"id":14113,"date":"2019-04-15T11:04:00","date_gmt":"2019-04-15T15:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/?p=14113"},"modified":"2019-04-15T11:11:05","modified_gmt":"2019-04-15T15:11:05","slug":"baby-naming-issue-help-we-did-what-you-said-not-to-do","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2019\/04\/15\/baby-naming-issue-help-we-did-what-you-said-not-to-do\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Naming Issue: &#8220;Help! We Did What You Said Not To Do!&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p>Hi Swistle!<br \/>\nWe unintentionally backed ourselves into a naming corner and we need your help! We have three children whose names end in &#8220;an&#8221; and a baby boy due in June. When we named our third, we thought we were finished having children so we didn&#8217;t anticipate having to worry about matchiness of their names. We are planning for this to be our last child. You and your readers <a href=\"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2015\/03\/20\/baby-boy-sofeeoh-brother-to-ian-and-reagan\/\">helped us name<\/a> our third child, we hope you can do it again!<\/p>\n<p>Our first is a boy, Ian Thomas. Our second is girl, Reagan Caroline. Our third is a boy, Kellan Jack. You and your readers helped us realize we like Americanized Irish type names for boys.<\/p>\n<p>Our top names:<br \/>\nDeclan (husband&#8217;s favorite, does it sound too much like Kellan?)<br \/>\nOwen (my favorite, doesn&#8217;t match &#8220;an&#8221; ending, too similar to Ian?)<\/p>\n<p>Other names we&#8217;ve found, but don&#8217;t love&#8230;<br \/>\nLincoln (too presidential with a Reagan?, and ending doesn&#8217;t match)<br \/>\nLogan (ending too similar to Reagan?)<br \/>\nLachlan (too Irish), Nathan, Duncan<\/p>\n<p>So my main question: do you think it has to end in an &#8220;an&#8221;? Or will a similar sound work? I don&#8217;t want him to feel left out, but I also don&#8217;t want to pick a name we don&#8217;t like just to match. A lot of the names we are finding sound like our existing boy names, or don&#8217;t flow with the set. The middle name will most likely be Graham or Anthony. Our last name is pronounced So-fe-oh, emphasis on the first syllable.<\/p>\n<p>Please help, thanks!<br \/>\nJackie<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I was so charmed and amused by the subject line of your email, I put it in the title of the post even though readers who click the link to the last time we talked will see I was absolutely complicit in looking for a third -n name. But you are right that in general I advise against corner-painting-into.<\/p>\n<p>I would cross out almost every single name on your list. Yes, I think Declan and Lachlan are too close to Kellan, and that Owen is too close to Ian, and that Lincoln is odd with a Reagan, and that two -gan endings is too many. I would keep Duncan and Nathan; I think those are good options.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think you have to go with another -an name or even another -n name. Last time you wanted a third -n\/-an, but that doesn&#8217;t mean you have to want it this time: it&#8217;s so understandable that parents would run out of -n\/-an names, and\/or that they would go with their favorite name rather than choosing a name they liked a lot less in order to follow a pattern. It gets harder and harder to choose a baby name the more babies you have, and it&#8217;s even harder when you&#8217;re working with additional restrictions. Get rid of the restrictions, I say! Break free! It will be at most a matter of slight interest to others, and no one will deep-down care; and this pattern is less obvious than, say, all names starting with the same initial.<\/p>\n<p>Although there are some people who will grow up looking for any reason to feel left out or to resent their parents, I suspect that non-matched sibling-group name-endings are not one of top choices for that: it&#8217;s not the sort of thing that gets you quality sympathy in high school. You can only wring so much emo out of &#8220;My siblings? They all have -n names. But I? *stifled sob* I DON&#8217;T!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>If you DO decide to continue the pattern, I would make a point of calling the pattern &#8220;ending in -n&#8221; rather than &#8220;ending in -an,&#8221; mostly because the former is hard enough but the latter feels nearly impossible. And if you get to the point where you are choosing a name you NEVER would have chosen if you weren&#8217;t trying to follow a pattern, I think that would be a good moment to reconsider the whole decision. &#8220;We just chose our very favorite name!&#8221; is an enduring classic, name-explanation-wise, and I think it outshines &#8220;Well, we had to find something that ended in -n, and this was the best we could do considering all the other limitations.&#8221; Not that we would actually say that second thing.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, -an is a surprisingly common ending, and so I do have a few -an names that might work (though I do think they are sounding Quite Similar to the siblings names, and if you&#8217;d had them on YOUR list I might have crossed them off with the others, so):<\/p>\n<p>Aidan (quite similar to Ian)<br \/>\nAlan (quite similar to Ian and Kellan)<br \/>\nBrendan<br \/>\nBrennan<br \/>\nColman (quite similar to Kellan)<br \/>\nDarian (ends in his eldest brother&#8217;s name)<br \/>\nDylan (quite similar to Kellan)<br \/>\nFinian (ends in his eldest brother&#8217;s name)<br \/>\nFinnegan (another -gan)<br \/>\nKeegan (quite similar to Kellan AND it&#8217;s another -gan)<br \/>\nMaclean (I would get tired of hearing it mispronounced like a McDonald&#8217;s menu option)<br \/>\nMorgan (another -gan)<br \/>\nNolan<br \/>\nQuinlan (quite similar to Kellan)<br \/>\nSullivan (tongue-twister with surname?)<br \/>\nTiernan<\/p>\n<p>I am feeling a little excited about the name Nolan. I think it fits well with your style and with the sibling names, and even though it ends in -lan like Kellan, it feels different enough to me in sound. Ian, Reagan, Kellan, and Nolan.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m also interested in Brennan. It brings in some new sounds while sticking to the theme. Ian, Reagan, Kellan, and Brennan.<\/p>\n<p>Finnegan ends in -gan like Reagan, but the extra syllable kept me from noticing that until I was going through the list a second time. I think the extra syllable also helps the whole group of names sound a little more different from each other. Ian, Reagan, Kellan, and Finnegan.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m also pretty keen on Tiernan. New sounds, but sticks to theme. Ian, Reagan, Kellan, Tiernan.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>But if I were you, I would go even further and call the pattern &#8220;Americanized Celtic names,&#8221; or &#8220;Names we liked,&#8221; and not do an -n this time at all. Maybe I&#8217;d lean toward something with an N-sound in it, but probably not.<\/p>\n<p>Ian, Reagan, Kellan, and:<\/p>\n<p>Brody<br \/>\nCormac<br \/>\nDesmond<br \/>\nEmmett<br \/>\nFinn (maybe not with this surname, I can&#8217;t tell)<br \/>\nFinley<br \/>\nGarrett<br \/>\nGrady (too many sounds in common with Reagan?)<br \/>\nMalcolm<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;Actually I think I am liking the -an names better. Nolan! Brennan! Finnegan! Tiernan! Nathan! Duncan! And I get the feeling you would be happier with another -an name. (Still, I assure you that I think it is more than fine to ditch that whole thing and just do a cheery &#8220;We ran out of -an names we liked, so we went with something different this time!&#8221; if anyone is so bold as to ask. And I really like Emmett.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hi Swistle! We unintentionally backed ourselves into a naming corner and we need your help! We have three children whose names end in &#8220;an&#8221; and a baby boy due in June. When we named our third, we thought we were finished having children so we didn&#8217;t anticipate having to worry about matchiness of their names. 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