{"id":14085,"date":"2019-03-26T07:08:47","date_gmt":"2019-03-26T11:08:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/?p=14085"},"modified":"2019-03-26T07:38:06","modified_gmt":"2019-03-26T11:38:06","slug":"baby-girl-foyle-with-a-d-sister-to-z0e-and-penel0pe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2019\/03\/26\/baby-girl-foyle-with-a-d-sister-to-z0e-and-penel0pe\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Girl Foyle-with-a-D, Sister to Z0e and Penel0pe"},"content":{"rendered":"

Hi Swistle,<\/p>\n

Please help with our third baby girl for last name sounds like foyle with a d.<\/p>\n

We have a Z0e Cecili@ and a Penel0pe Pe@rl who we have nicknamed Lulu.<\/p>\n

My husband and I can\u2019t decide on the perfect name as we like too many but don\u2019t \u201clove\u201d any.<\/p>\n

Our number one choice was Amelia with the nick name Millie but am worried about the popularity of Amelia and whether it is special enough.<\/p>\n

Names I like but my husband doesn\u2019t are:
\nDaisy
\nCamilla
\nMila
\nMabel
\nRemy
\nScout
\nIndie
\nImogen<\/p>\n

Ones my husband finds okay are;
\nEvie
\nIsabel<\/p>\n

Names I love but can\u2019t use
\nPolly
\nPoppy
\nJemima<\/p>\n

Looking for something unique and beautiful but not strange.<\/p>\n

Thank you – we are lost.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

 <\/p>\n

The Social Security Administration<\/a> reports that in 2017, the name Penel0pe was the 24th most popular girl name in the United States; Z0e was 41st, but it’s a little complicated because the spelling Z0ey was #29 and would contribute to the perception of how common the name was; and Amelia was #8. Those rankings put the names all within reasonable range of each other, and I think the name Millie helps give the name an extra freshness. If Amelia is your number one choice, and you both agree on it, and you are feeling lost trying to come up with anything else, then I think you are all set: you have already found the name you both like best. If you would find it enjoyable to continue looking, we can do a little of that, with the comfort of knowing you already have a good name lined up if the exploration is fruitless.<\/p>\n

I suspect that the reason the name Amelia is not sitting quite right with you is that the names Z0e and Penel0pe are more recent to current usage: the name Z0e didn’t settle comfortably into the Top 1000 until 1983, and only hit the Top 100 in 2000; the name Penel0pe had a more rapid and even more recent rise, getting back into the Top 1000 in 2001 and the Top 100 in 2013. By comparison, the name Amelia hasn’t been out of the Top 1000 a single time since the SSA online records start in 1900, and in fact it’s never been out of the Top 500. That kind of long-term familiarity can make a name feel less exciting than a name that still has a smack of surprise. Still, I don’t think that’s enough reason to take it off the list, especially when you are struggling to agree on anything else.<\/p>\n

To try to add more possibilities to the list, I would look for other names that have come back into style more recently. Bonus points for names with something a little interesting about the spelling\/pronunciation, as both Z0e and Penel0pe have with their Greek endings, and as Z0e has with the interesting initial Z, and as they both have by being fun to say.<\/p>\n

Annabel
\nAria
\nBeatrix
\nCalista
\nCamille
\nCeleste
\nCleo
\nEleanor\/Nora
\nEloise
\nEsme
\nFelicity
\nFiona
\nGenevieve\/Evie
\nHazel
\nIris
\nIsla
\nIvy
\nJosephine
\nJuliette
\nLila
\nLydia
\nPhoebe
\nRuby
\nStella
\nViolet
\nVivian<\/p>\n

I left in some options I’m not sure about: some might be too big a popularity gap with Z0e and Penel0pe; and I’m not sure about the ones that duplicate the surname’s ending L-sound; and names like Lila and Isla and Ruby are not great with Lulu. But this is the kind of list I’d be looking at.<\/p>\n

One of my top choices for you is Annabel. It’s fun to say, and its current level of popularity (along with the similar Annabelle, Annabella, etc., as well as the El-\/-elle\/-ella sounds in general) is relatively recent. Z0e, Penel0pe, and Annabel.<\/p>\n

I also like Genevieve. It’s familiar but retains a freshness, and it gives you the nickname Evie from your husband’s list. Z0e, Penel0pe, and Genevieve; Z0e, Lulu, and Evie.<\/p>\n

If this will be your last child, I might suggest going all-in with Phoebe. (I would also have suggested Daphne, but the alliteration with the surname seemed one notch too far.) Z0e, Penel0pe, and Phoebe. Visually, though, it bothers me how close it is to Penel0pe.<\/p>\n

I like how Fiona splits the difference between Z0e and Penel0pe, syllable-wise, and echoes the long-O of Z0e. Z0e, Penel0pe, and Fiona.<\/p>\n

Josephine, too, is three syllables and repeats the long-O sound. Z0e, Penel0pe, and Josephine; Z0e, Lulu, and Josie. But Josie may be too similar to Z0e.<\/p>\n

I like how Ruby brings out the sass of all three names, and repeats the long-E ending in sound while using a different letter to achieve it. Z0e, Penel0pe, and Ruby.<\/p>\n

I like the way the middle D-sound of Lydia is echoed in the surname, and it’s fun to say.\u00a0 Z0e, Penel0pe, and Lydia.<\/p>\n

Eloise, too, I find fun to say, and this is another option that repeats the long-O sound. Z0e, Penel0pe, and Eloise.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Hi Swistle, Please help with our third baby girl for last name sounds like foyle with a d. We have a Z0e Cecili@ and a Penel0pe Pe@rl who we have nicknamed Lulu. My husband and I can\u2019t decide on the perfect name as we like too many but don\u2019t \u201clove\u201d any. Our number one choice […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14085","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3iyiG-3Fb","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14085","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14085"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14085\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14089,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14085\/revisions\/14089"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14085"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14085"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14085"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}