{"id":13718,"date":"2018-09-10T10:00:05","date_gmt":"2018-09-10T14:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/?p=13718"},"modified":"2018-09-10T12:55:20","modified_gmt":"2018-09-10T16:55:20","slug":"baby-girl-smuel-sister-to-k3nna-tyl3r","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2018\/09\/10\/baby-girl-smuel-sister-to-k3nna-tyl3r\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Girl S@muel, Sister to K3nna Tyl3r"},"content":{"rendered":"

(By the way, in case you are looking for something fun to do, Baby Name Mini Posts in the Comments Section<\/a> is still going strong. I love threaded comments for this: everything is kept so tidy! you can scroll through, seeing each question and its associated comments separately!)<\/p>\n

Hello Swistle!<\/p>\n

We are expecting our second little girl in early October. My firstborn is named K3nna Tyl3r. Her first name is the nickname I have always called my beloved sister, Br00ke McK3nna. Telling my sister her niece\u2019s name when she was born was one of the sweetest moments of my life. I would do it again a million times! It also honors my husband\u2019s grandfather and great-grandfather, both named Kenneth. I wasn\u2019t 100% sold on the name when we picked it, but it suits her perfectly and it meant the world to all the people who were honored with her name.\"\"(Your posts about how using honor names sometimes means giving up your favorite names to honor someone you love helped me navigate this tension. It\u2019s so true – THANK YOU! I\u2019m attaching a photo of the moment I told my sister my daughter\u2019s name. Feel free to use it as proof of your point if you want!) Tyl3r is my husband\u2019s middle name, which he goes by. Our last name is S@muel.<\/p>\n

I am very sentimental, and I love honor names. I have a brother I adore and would like to honor, but it\u2019s difficult to name a little girl after her uncle. His name is L@ndon. The name we have most seriously considered is June (his birth month). This feels like a little bit of a stretch to me, but would also honor my husband\u2019s other grandfather who is called Junior. I like the name ok, but don\u2019t feel sure about it. Is it \u201cclose enough\u201d to count as a namesake? Is there a better way to honor him? Additionally, do you feel like June is about to explode in popularity? It feels like it is on the verge of a big jump, and when I saw someone else asking the same question in the mini-post comment section, I felt affirmed in my concern and wanted to hear your thoughts. Is it one of those names people talk about a lot but don\u2019t use? Or does it feel familiar because it is everywhere as middle name? We hope to have 1 more child, and it will have my maiden name, T@bor, boy or girl, though I prefer it for a boy. K3nna and T@bor are both very clear namesakes, and June seems a little random. It\u2019s also not a great match with the other two in popularity. Or style, I guess?<\/p>\n

Potential first names:<\/p>\n

Callan (No sentimental reason. I like the sound and the meaning. Uncommon for a girl.)
\nAlice (forever and always my favorite. My great-grandmother\u2019s name. I hate the way it sounds with our last name. Also, husband has a family member with exact first and last name. More popular than I care for.)
\nDouble name Alice-June? (too much with simple K3nna? Called Ali-June? Hyphen, no hyphen? Feels a little too trendy.)
\nT@bor (I use my favorite boy name on this baby because who knows if we will have another baby, much less a boy?)<\/p>\n

Potential Middles:<\/p>\n

Alise (my middle name, derived from my aunt Allison who was named for the aforementioned Alice)
\nAdelaide (comes from the nickname my grandfather always used for me, Adelheid),
\nJune (only if I can choose a different first that I love)
\nMae (obviously not with June, but I find it charming!)
\nL@ndon (just to make the tribute clearer, and I obviously don\u2019t have an issue with masculine middle names on girls.)<\/p>\n

Names I like but have been nixed for whatever reason: Georgia, Margaret, Merritt, Haven, Elle, Evangeline<\/p>\n

My mind feels like a tangled web or possibility and I\u2019m begging you (and your tribe of phenomenal commenters) to help me straighten it all out!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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When I first saw L@ndon in the letter, I mis-read it as London. I wonder if London would work: the current usage in the U.S. is more common for girls, and I think it’s nice with K3nna and a possible future T@bor. Or Linden would be pretty. But do either of those feel to you as if they honor your brother? And would either of them feel that way to your brother? That’s the most important thing. We can come up with tons of possible variations, but if we think your brother would hear London\/Linden and think “But…that’s not my name,” then I think it would be better to go straight to L@ndon.<\/p>\n

Perhaps a feminized spelling? Landyn? Landynn? I usually prefer to avoid alternative spellings, but I think that’s what I might do in this particular case; Landyn is my favorite spelling. Or actually, I might just say heck with it and use L@ndon: people might occasionally assume it’s a boy’s name, but that’s easily dealt with. I suggest for the middle name using the name you go by, to mirror your first child’s name. Or maybe Adelheid!<\/p>\n

June as the honor name feels like too much of a stretch to me. I ran the Honor Name Test: I imagined someone telling me they named the baby after the month I was born, and then waited to see if I felt any prickling of tears. Result: no. However, if her first name is L@ndon\/Landyn, THEN I think if you went with something like Landyn June it could strengthen the association with your brother. Plus it can refer to Grandpa Junior.<\/p>\n

The name June is coming into fashion again, but I don’t think that necessarily means there will be a huge spike—though of course these things are very difficult to predict (I would not have predicted Charlotte and Oliver would end up in the Top Ten, and yet here we are). Here’s what it’s been up to lately, according to the Social Security Administration<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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(screenshot from ssa.gov)<\/p><\/div>\n

Notice that the chart skips right from 2008 to 1986: June was not in the Top 1000 in 1987-2007. If I scroll back further (not pictured), I see that the last time the name June was in the Top 50 was 1922-1934—so we’d be expecting to see it coming back into style around now. I think it’s getting a lot of chat because it sounds fresh again: we’ve all been using the heck out of Jane as a middle name, but now June and Jean are catching our interest as well. I’d expect it to continue to rise for awhile as it continues its time in the sun, but the classics that cycle in and out for centuries never sound trendy to me, even when they get popular. I also think you’re right that it might feel more common because of its use as a middle name. Jane and Rose are the same way: they feel like such common names, but I hardly know any kids with those names as FIRST names. One Rose, and no Janes!<\/p>\n

The T@bor issue is a difficult one. I think it’s going to come down to putting the two possibilities on the scale and seeing which one weighs more: on one side of the scale, the possibility that you will save the name in case you have a boy, but then you will not end up having more children; on the other side of the scale, the possibility that you will use the name for a girl, and then later have a boy and wish you’d saved the name. Which possibility is more upsetting? I too prefer the name for a boy—but I love it so much when the mom’s surname can be used as a first name, it’s painful to think of losing that chance. I don’t know what I would do if I were you. I’m pretty sure if it were me I would save it and then use it for the third child, because the “having a boy later and wishing I’d saved the name” weighs more for me, but you and your husband will have your own answers.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

(By the way, in case you are looking for something fun to do, Baby Name Mini Posts in the Comments Section is still going strong. I love threaded comments for this: everything is kept so tidy! you can scroll through, seeing each question and its associated comments separately!) Hello Swistle! We are expecting our second […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13718","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3iyiG-3zg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13718","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13718"}],"version-history":[{"count":15,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13718\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13735,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13718\/revisions\/13735"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13718"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13718"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13718"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}