{"id":12841,"date":"2017-07-19T08:58:25","date_gmt":"2017-07-19T12:58:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/?p=12841"},"modified":"2017-11-09T16:28:19","modified_gmt":"2017-11-09T20:28:19","slug":"baby-boy-or-girl-pollack-sibling-to-charles-and-hazel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2017\/07\/19\/baby-boy-or-girl-pollack-sibling-to-charles-and-hazel\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Boy or Girl Pollack, Sibling to Charles and Hazel"},"content":{"rendered":"

Hi Swistle,<\/p>\n

I have loved reading your blog over the years and continually refer back to your archives. I am writing because we are expecting our 3rd and final child in October and we are having a harder time deciding on a name this time around.<\/p>\n

Our last name is Pollack, spelled differently. We have two children, Charles (Charlie) Joseph and Hazel Lillian. Since we already have a boy and a girl, we are keeping this third child’s gender a surprise. However, that means we have to come up with TWO names, not just one. Yikes! Charlie is named after a grandfather on each side and the middle name Lillian is a family name as well. Ideally, we’d like the name to have 2 syllables so it fits in with Charlie and Hazel and our “name family.” We tend to like more traditional names that are not super popular.<\/p>\n

If the child is a boy, we’d like to use the middle name Israel (my maiden name). As far as boy contenders, this is where we are having the hardest time and are feeling somewhat stuck. I have always loved the name Simon and think it fits so well with our other two, but my husband is not a fan of it. (He can’t exactly pinpoint why, but I think it might be because he does a lot of business in the UK and has run across his fair share of Simons, since the name seems to be more popular there). Other names we have considered include:<\/p>\n

Nolan–This is a decent contender that we both like but I’m not sure it’s the one yet. Maybe it’s that it begins and ends with the letter “N” but I don’t find it as inviting a name as Charlie and Hazel, if that makes sense. It sounds a little harder to me.<\/p>\n

Grayson–Again, another one we are both okay with but not quite sure it’s right. It sounds a little trendier than we’re used to.<\/p>\n

We like the Henry\/Theodore\/James\/Noah type names, but they are all too popular where we are from.<\/p>\n

As far as girls, if this baby is a girl, her middle name will be Bernice (after BOTH of my grandmothers)! There are a few names we both really like but we keep running into questions about pronunciation.<\/p>\n

Isla–This is our front runner and my favorite. However, my husband’s family is all Spanish-speaking and he worries the pronunciation will be so confusing since Isla would literally be pronounced “Ees-la in Spanish.<\/p>\n

Laurel–Another name we really love although I hesitate that it sounds too close to Hazel with the -el ending.<\/p>\n

Jolie–We love the idea of this name, but again it comes down to pronunciation. Is it JO-lee like Josie or Jo-LEE like the actress? Will we forever be correcting people? If I think about it too much it makes my head spin!<\/p>\n

Would love to hear your expert advice or any thoughts that you have. We love both of our kids’ names so much, I feel like the pressure is on for this third baby! Thanks again!<\/p>\n

Rachel<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Simon seems great to me. Grayson seems like the wrong style with Charlie and Hazel. I’m about to suggest a bunch of names that may very well fall into the Henry\/Theodore\/James category, but that’s seems like the very category we should be looking at: vintage revival and\/or timeless. I’m ignoring the preference for two syllables for now: especially for girl names, I think it unnecessarily rules out too many good candidates. And I don’t know anything about Spanish pronunciation, so I’m leaving that aside as well. You may start to wonder why I am even answering the question if I’m not able\/willing to follow the guidelines, and to that I say la la la I do what I want.<\/p>\n

Elliot\/Emmett\/Everett. I think of these names as their own little group, and I think all of them would be great in this sibling group. Charlie, Hazel, and Elliot. Charlie, Hazel, and Emmett. Charlie, Hazel, and Everett. My favorite is Emmett: I think it has the friendly sound of Charlie.<\/p>\n

Miles. Charles and Hazel both have a Z-sound; adding another might appeal, or might seem like too much, especially since it repeats the ending of Charles. Milo might be better, and it has a friendlier sound. Charlie, Hazel, and Milo.<\/p>\n

Ian. Charlie, Hazel, and Ian. This would make a cute monogram of the surname-in-the-middle variety: IPI.<\/p>\n

Malcolm. I like how this name has a formal\/friendly sound: dressed up like Charles, but approachable like Charlie. Charlie, Hazel, and Malcolm. I find it a little difficult to say with the surname, but not too difficult.<\/p>\n

Jasper. Charlie, Hazel, and Jasper. I was wondering why that name sounded like it clicked together with the surname in a familiar way, and I think it’s because of the artist Jackson Pollock.<\/p>\n

Nicholas. This name is familiar enough that I find my eyes sometimes skim right past it in the name book. But I met a little baby Nicholas recently and was charmed by the name all over again. Charlie, Hazel, and Nicholas. I don’t like the initials NIP, though.<\/p>\n

Sam. I would probably use the long form Samuel. Sam feels to me like an absolutely natural brother name for Charlie. Charlie, Hazel, and Sam. Again, I’m not crazy about the initials, but SIP is better than NIP.<\/p>\n

George. I love this name so much. Charlie, Hazel, and George. I think that’s darling. It makes me want to squeeze all of them.<\/p>\n

Wesley. Charles, Hazel, and Wesley; Charlie, Hazel, and Wes. This is one of my favorite combinations.<\/p>\n

Leo. Perfect with Charlie, but maybe too informal with Charles. Charlie, Hazel, and Leo. Initials spell LIP.<\/p>\n

Louis. One of my own favorites. Charlie, Hazel, and Louis. LIP initials again.<\/p>\n

Oliver. This seems like such a good fit. Charles, Hazel, and Oliver.<\/p>\n

You wouldn’t want to use Albert, would you? I’m ready to hear it again, and am trying to talk others into making that happen. It helps that when I was a child there was an extremely kind and gentle college-aged swimming teacher named Albert\/Al. He was such a contrast to the other college-aged male swimming teachers, who were loud and show-offy and flirty; Al was warm and patient and nice, and a good teacher. Charles, Hazel, and Albert; Charlie, Hazel, and Al (or Bertie).<\/p>\n

Edmund. Charles, Hazel, and Edmund; Charlie, Hazel, and Eddie\/Teddy.<\/p>\n

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Now, for the girl names. You two know your husband’s family: are they good with learning English pronunciations of things? Will they be able\/willing to learn it, even though it is different than what they’d expect it to be? If so, then I think you should use Isla if you want to, despite the pronunciation issue. If instead they would never really be able\/willing to learn it, or if they would give you a hard time about it, that might be too much hassle and I might suggest going with something else.<\/p>\n

Would Iris be any easier? It’s botanical like Hazel, which might make it too matchy for your tastes, but I think it’s a better style fit with Hazel. Charles, Hazel, and Iris.<\/p>\n

Laurel feels very matched with Hazel—not only both botanical, but also the matched endings. I also have a little trouble saying Laurel Pollack.<\/p>\n

Part of the package deal of the name Jolie is going to be correcting pronunciation. Would that drive you crazy, or would you be fine with that? I pronounce it jo-LEE, like Angelina Jolie and like the French word. But I wouldn’t be surprised to find a JO-lee, like Joely Fisher. Well, I’d be a little surprised. But in any case, the style of Jolie seems so different from the style of Charlie and Hazel, and it bothers me a little that there’d be too -lie endings, and I don’t quite like it with the surname: the repeating -ol- sound, I think.<\/p>\n

I would probably head more in the direction of vintage revival and\/or timeless again. When I looked for boy names, I was looking for something to match the friendliness of Charlie; for girl names, I’m looking for something to match the substance and sass of Hazel.<\/p>\n

Eloise. This gives you Z-sounds in all three names. Charles, Hazel, and Eloise.<\/p>\n

Eliza. This too gives you Z-sounds in all three names. Charles, Hazel, and Eliza.<\/p>\n

Louise. This too gives you Z-sounds in all three names, while also meeting the 2-syllable preference. Charles, Hazel, and Louise.<\/p>\n

Georgia. Charlie, Hazel, and Georgia.<\/p>\n

Alice. Charlie, Hazel, and Alice.<\/p>\n

Lydia. Charles, Hazel, and Lydia.<\/p>\n

Matilda. Charlie, Hazel, and Matilda.<\/p>\n

Minerva. Charlie, Hazel, and Minerva.<\/p>\n

Ruby. Charlie, Hazel, and Ruby.<\/p>\n

Winifred. Charles, Hazel, and Winifred.<\/p>\n

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Name update:<\/strong><\/p>\n

\nHi Swistle,<\/p>\n

Just wanted to send you a baby update. \u00a0Everyone swore up and down we were having a boy so when our girl, Lilah Bernice, arrived a few weeks ago, we were all surprised!! \u00a0Thank you so much for all of your thoughtful comments and your readers thoughts as well. \u00a0Reading through everyone’s ideas really helped us narrow down our list and we settled on her name rather quickly. \u00a0 Her brother and sister lovingly refer to her as “Little Lilah”. \u00a0 Thanks again!<\/p>\n

xRachel<\/p>\n

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