{"id":10885,"date":"2015-01-29T11:51:08","date_gmt":"2015-01-29T15:51:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/?p=10885"},"modified":"2015-08-17T11:29:17","modified_gmt":"2015-08-17T15:29:17","slug":"baby-boy-korver-brother-to-judah-samson","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2015\/01\/29\/baby-boy-korver-brother-to-judah-samson\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Boy Korver, Brother to Judah Samson"},"content":{"rendered":"

Hi Swistle,<\/p>\n

I’m due July 1st with another boy (the doc was pretty sure but not 100%) brother to Judah Samson. Samson is my mother’s maiden name and Judah is named for my husband’s maternal grandfather whose hebrew name was Yehuda (Judah is the english version of Yehuda). I briefly worried about having an “S” middle name after Judah because I was afraid it would sound like “Judas” rather than “Judah” but then I realized people wouldn’t very frequently be saying his full name anyway and I liked the Samson connection too much to give it up. We didn’t\/don’t plan to use the nickname Jude – but we like that there is that option if he chooses it or others want to call him that in the future. We are so happy with his name and people from our families on both sides are truly touched by the connections his name has to his roots.<\/p>\n

So far we have pretty much decided on the first name Ezra if this is a boy (the first name would be after my husband’s grandfather whose first name was Israel). For the middle name, we’d like to go with something that honors my grandfather – in English his name was Robert Henry, or Chaim in Hebrew. The problem is, so far none of those names really work with the first name and our last name, which sounds like Korver.<\/p>\n

Ezra Robert Korver (B followed by V makes it hard to say, styles don’t match)
\nEzra Henry Korver (quite a mouthful, styles don’t match)
\nEzra Chaim Korver (no way, don’t like a sound in there no one can pronounce)
\nEzra Micah Korver (We even got creative and thought of using Micah, an anagram of Chaim). This still doesn’t flow well with the two names ending in A sounds and may be kind of feminine. But I do like the creativity of it, and I like that the name styles seem to go together.<\/p>\n

Other boy names we like, but ultimately decided we like Ezra better because of the honor connection and sound: Elliot, Joel, Rafi, Oren, Ian.<\/p>\n

Help! Do you have other thoughts or creative ideas for how to honor my grandfather in my son’s name? Is there a perfect derivative name of Henry or Robert or Chaim we haven’t thought of? He was really musical and we shared that passion – anything i can do with that?. I called him Pop, and my grandmother called him Bobby if those spark anything. Maybe you can convince me that one of the options above is the one or suggest some brilliant advice or alternative.<\/p>\n

THANK YOU!
\nShira<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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I don’t think the first and middle names DO need to match in style. In fact, I’d say I generally prefer them NOT to match: I think of the middle name as a great place for a name that doesn’t work in style as a first name, or for an honor name you like more for the honor than for the name itself, or whatever. Ezra Robert Korver seems perfect to me.<\/p>\n

I also don’t think the whole name needs to avoid being a mouthful, or that the middle name needs to flow perfectly with either the first name or the surname, unless your family tends to say the full name frequently. In most cases, a person is called by first and last, or only by first; the middle sort of drops out of the picture. But Ezra Henry Korver doesn’t seem particularly like a mouthful to me anyway.<\/p>\n

In general my feeling about honor names is that they’re worth a little awkwardness. If you find the B followed by the V a little difficult to say, I think a minor pronunciation issue (especially one that is unlikely to be said) is well worth it as the price of using the honoree’s first name. Using an anagram or hobby-related name seems unnecessary here: I think Robert works beautifully.<\/p>\n

I also think Chaim works beautifully, if that name would be more meaningful to your family or have a stronger connection to your grandfather: if anyone needed to pronounce the middle name for some reason and couldn’t manage it, I doubt that would cause a level of difficulty or inconvenience that would make you sorry you’d chosen the name.<\/p>\n

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Name update!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Hi Swistle,<\/p>\n

Thanks so much for your advice and your reader’s insights!<\/p>\n

Ezra Ronen was born on 6\/24\/15 at 7 lbs 13 oz. We thought of Ronen as a middle name option pretty late in the game but it had a lot of great benefits. It starts with Ro like my grandfather’s name Robert, it means joyful song so has the music connection I was looking for, and my husband has a close friend with that name so he has a really positive association with it and so do I. I also loved that with his first name, Ezra, meaning “help or support” his full name “Ezra Ronen” means to help or support through joyful song. That so describes my grandfather and the unique gift he had to lift people’s spirits through music that it feels like a really strong connection to him. Here is a picture of Ezra and one with proud big brother Judah as well.<\/p>\n

Thanks again!
\nShira
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Hi Swistle, I’m due July 1st with another boy (the doc was pretty sure but not 100%) brother to Judah Samson. Samson is my mother’s maiden name and Judah is named for my husband’s maternal grandfather whose hebrew name was Yehuda (Judah is the english version of Yehuda). I briefly worried about having an “S” […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10885","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-name-update"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3iyiG-2Pz","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10885","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10885"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10885\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11552,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10885\/revisions\/11552"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10885"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10885"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10885"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}