{"id":10384,"date":"2014-08-15T07:05:33","date_gmt":"2014-08-15T11:05:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/?p=10384"},"modified":"2015-03-03T19:35:31","modified_gmt":"2015-03-03T23:35:31","slug":"baby-boy-or-girl-dum0nt-sibling-to-juliet-and-oliver","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swistle.com\/babynames\/2014\/08\/15\/baby-boy-or-girl-dum0nt-sibling-to-juliet-and-oliver\/","title":{"rendered":"Baby Boy or Girl Dum0nt, Sibling to Juliet and Oliver"},"content":{"rendered":"

Hi Swistle,<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve been reading and responding to posts for several years now and am hoping that yourself, and the others, can help me choose a name for Baby Dum0nt #3. We had two, almost devastating, emergency c-sections resulting in concerns whether either child would survive rather than caring about the gender so this go around we have a planned c-section in January and are hoping that we will finally get our happy “SURPRISE, it\u2019s a _____!!!” So, we have decided to keep the gender unknown again.<\/p>\n

For some background, our last name is pronounced du-mont, english rather than the french pronunciation. We have a 3 year old girl named Juliet, a 1 year old boy named Oliver, and we hope to have four children altogether. Our naming style is very much classic\/traditional names and we prefer names that are either male or female (don\u2019t particularly care for unisex names). Both our kids have family names for their middle name and we plan on continuing this tradition with our remaining children so we don\u2019t have to worry about choosing those. If this baby is a boy, we plan on naming him Charles. It\u2019s finding the perfect girl name that we are struggling with.<\/p>\n

The name we currently like best is Rose. We feel that it fits in well with the sibling set and that it has that classic but not overly used (at least for a first name) style that we like but I find myself continuing to search for \u201cTHE\u201d name despite liking this one; I feel as though the right name is still out there.<\/p>\n

To give you an idea of other names we like, but for one reason or another they just aren\u2019t right:
\nRuby – seems like it has almost has fallen out of the old, classic style and into the hipster-ish category. Husband has kinda thrown it out
\nLucy – husband not keen. Too short? Doesn\u2019t really fit in with sibling names.
\nViolet – too similar to Juliet ??
\nIsabel – I don\u2019t know if I could get around the Izzy nn that is bound to occur
\nVivienne – feel like the spelling is too fussy with Juliet and for whatever reason, I don\u2019t like the Vivian spelling. Also, there is a 2 year old that lives right beside us with this name\u2026.so that pretty much is off the table.<\/p>\n

Names we like but cannot use:
\nBrigette
\nEmmeline
\nMadelyn (or its variations such as Adeline, etc)
\nHenrietta
\nEtta and Ada we love so much but think they have too many harsh \u201cT\u201d and \u201cD\u201d sounds with our last name<\/p>\n

There aren\u2019t really many names that we dislike in this category\/style. Margaret is one name we can\u2019t really get on board with using as a first name but will likely be one of the middle names, after my grandmothers.<\/p>\n

Thanks in advance for all your help!!<\/p>\n

Kelsey D.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Rose is my favorite from the list, too. My one hesitation is that with Juliet, it immediately makes me think of the rose-by-any-other-name quote. Whenever such a connection occurs to me and leads to a hesitation, I ask myself: “But is this a PROBLEM?” In this case, I think no. There isn’t anything negative about that quote, or anything unpleasant about the connection. It helps even more than there is another sibling between the two names.<\/p>\n

I know only a few Isabelles\/Isabellas, but so far haven’t heard the nickname Izzy used (though I’m definitely familiar with it as a nickname option). Of the three who come to mind, one goes almost exclusively by Bella (at her request), one periodically goes by Bella but also uses Isabella, and the third goes only by Isabella as far as I know (she was in Elizabeth’s class last year and Elizabeth says no one calls her Bella—but Elizabeth wouldn’t know if the nickname were used outside of school). I can picture this changing, though, as they grow up, so it’s a good issue to be taking into account if you dislike the nickname. I’m remembering the Elizabeths my age who were Beths as children and switched to Liz as adults.<\/p>\n

I do think you could use the spelling Vivienne with Juliet if you wanted to. I was about to type that I saw the objection and that it bothered me a little too but I thought that would quickly fade—but then I realized that in the amount of time it had taken me to write the first part of that sentence, it already didn’t bother me anymore. I think I even prefer Vivienne with Juliet: Vivian is more exactly parallel in a letter-by-letter way, but I think the style match is better with Vivienne.<\/p>\n

The trouble with trying to answer a question from a fellow name-hobbyist is that it’s hard to imagine suggesting something you haven’t already thought of! I will persevere, however. As we’ve seen here before, sometimes abundant commenter approval leads parents to see a name in a new light.<\/p>\n

If Rose ends up not being quite right, and Violet is too similar to Juliet, I wonder if other flower\/plant names might work. Calla is pretty. Or I love Iris. Lillian with the nickname Lily is similar to Vivienne\/Vivian but without the girl-next-door issue; if Oliver goes by Ollie, Ollie and Lily might be too similar. I’m a little nervous about the potential poison-ivy teasing (it was the first thing my kids thought of when I suggested it as a name for Henry before we knew he was a boy), but Ivy is wonderful, and I think the fast connection to poison ivy would diminish if the name would get a little more familiar. Oh, or Laurel! Or would you like Rose better as a short form of Rosemary? or, to add a little Shakespeare theme, Rosalind?<\/p>\n

Claudia sprang to my mind. It has some of the sound of Etta or Ada, but with more syllables to downplay the repeating D-sounds. Claudia Dum0nt; Juliet, Oliver, and Claudia.<\/p>\n

Lydia is similar: it has the D, but I think additional syllables make it even nicely tied in to the surname, rather than harsh. Lydia Dum0nt; Juliet, Oliver, and Lydia.<\/p>\n

Or Cecily would be pretty. Cecily Dum0nt; Juliet, Oliver, and Cecily.<\/p>\n

Or Sylvia. Sylvia Dum0nt; Juliet, Oliver, and Sylvia.<\/p>\n

Or Beatrix. Beatrix Dum0nt; Juliet, Oliver, and Beatrix.<\/p>\n

Bianca is a name I’d love to used more often. Bianca Dum0nt does gallop together a bit for me, I think because of the second-syllable emphasis: I get Biancadum0nt as if it were all one word. But I think it would take me about two repetitions to get in the habit of a tiny half-pause. Juliet, Oliver, and Bianca.<\/p>\n

Sabrina has a similar emphasis, but for some reason doesn’t run together as much. I think it’s the hard-C sound of Bianca that gives me a bit of a galloping feel, and Sabrina’s N doesn’t do the same. Sabrina Dum0nt; Juliet, Oliver, and Sabrina. I love that.<\/p>\n

Eloise is one of my own favorites. Eloise Dum0nt; Juliet, Oliver, and Eloise.<\/p>\n

Eloise makes me think of Eliza, another of my own favorites. Eliza Dum0nt; Juliet, Oliver, and Eliza.<\/p>\n

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Name update!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Hi there!
\nThank you again to you and all the other readers that provided insight into our naming dilemma if babe #3 turned out to be a girl; well, two weeks ago, we ended up having a baby girl! After reading all the comments, I was set on using Rosalie however, my husband preferred the simpler Rose. Although I felt like Rosalie was a better match stylistically to our other two kiddos names (Juliet and Oliver) I was happy to use “just” Rose.
\nSo, introducing Rose Margaret Grace!<\/p>\n

(Also, thanks for the suggestions\/encouragement of future names should we have another girl: Lucia, Viola\/Violet and Vivienne.)<\/p>\n

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Thanks!
\nKelsey D.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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