Les Invasions Barbares; The Grand Budapest Hotel; Last Chance Harvey

I mentioned in a previous post that I’d watched Le Déclin de L’Empire Américain (the one where basically eight people talk about sex) and was planning to watch the sequel Les Invasions Barbares. Which I did. A few minutes into it, I was thinking an actor looked very familiar—and it wasn’t one of the original cast, so I thought I must have seen him in something else. Then the plot took a familiar turn, too, and I realized I’d seen this movie already! Separately! Not realizing it was a sequel! Anyway, I’d liked it the first time and was glad to watch it again, and I liked it even better after seeing the first movie.

It’s a movie about a group of friends gathering around a friend who is dying, and also about the lengths the dying friend’s child goes to in order to make his dad comfortable. There’s a lot of good crying to be had. Plus, it’s fun to get updates on the other characters’ lives nearly 20 years later.

Then I watched The Grand Budapest Hotel, and I liked a lot. Funny and charming and also sad. I tried to watch it while eating lunch, but couldn’t: there’s so much visual stuff in a Wes Anderson movie, it’s like watching a movie with subtitles.

Then I watched Last Chance Harvey, which was on my “romance over 40” list. I always love Emma Thompson, but I didn’t like the movie. I’m going to discuss the plot here, so there will be spoilers, but I’m not sure there is anything actually spoilerish about them: the full story arc is clear from the beginning, just waiting for the details to be filled in. But if you’re planning to watch it, you can skip the rest of the post: I don’t say anything else after talking about the movie.

It started with me misunderstanding something. At the beginning of the movie, we’re being introduced to the two main characters: Emma Thompson’s Kate, and Dustin Hoffman’s Harvey. Kate comes into a house saying, “Hello, it’s your daughter!” and then we see Harvey playing his piano. So I thought Kate was Harvey’s daughter. The ages make sense: Emma Thompson was about 47, and Dustin Hoffman was about 70. BUT NO. NO, she is not his daughter: they are going to have a romance. We were just switching from “seeing Kate’s life” to “seeing Harvey’s life.”

Then, Harvey is a guy with problems. He can be charming, but it feels like a cover after we see how he behaves in several situations: he is not someone I would set up even with someone his age, such as Kate’s mother. When he gets Kate to talk to him in a bar, he’s aggressive in a way that made me feel very uncomfortable. When she politely says no to his advances, he makes a sound that makes me want to hit him. He doesn’t listen to her saying no to him, and he persists. She says a polite and well-explained no to his suggestion that they have lunch together, so he sits at a table next to hers, orders lunch, and then says “See, we’re having lunch together”: he forces her to do what she said she did not want to do. He overshares about his life, in order to prove to her that his day was worse than hers (“You think YOUR day was bad?”), and never does ask her about why her day was bad. My instincts were going “Wheep, wheep, get out of there, Kate!,” but this was supposed to be them hitting it off. Then he follows her and won’t leave her alone; again, I was hearing sirens and seeing red lights, but we were supposed to be seeing successful romance beginning. I was seeing a desperate creepy guy trying to rebuild his self-esteem with a younger woman because he was feeling old and rejected and emasculated by other events in his life.

Soon he’s much less creepy and I started to accept some of the romance (at least they briefly REFERRED to the age difference instead of pretending it didn’t exist), but then his less-creepy self didn’t make sense with what we’d seen of him earlier. I still felt like he was a man invested in the chase: he MUST overcome her objections, he will pursue her like a salesman until he WINS, because THIS IS ALL HE HAS and he can’t suffer another crushing blow.

He buys her a dress, which had a certain element of potential charm but I felt like she should not have let him choose it or buy it for her. Not just because it was weird, but because it didn’t seem to fit with her character: she would buy her own dress, not stand there like a doll while a man dressed her and then took out his wallet. And it felt like it was filling a slot labeled “Romantic Movie Scene.”

Through all this, Emma Thompson is lovely, and I loved her and wanted a better guy for her. Dustin Hoffman ends up being appealing to a certain extent, too—but again, it doesn’t fit with what we saw of him earlier. It seems like his earlier conversation with his ex-wife about why they married/split (he was so fun / but then he became a complete jerk all the time) is the exact way it’s going to go with Kate, too.

Finally, I NEVER find it charming or romantic or pleasing in any way when people make promises they are absolutely unable to make. “I promise he’ll be okay.” “Everything will be fine, I promise.” “I promise this relationship will work.” Those are not promises people can make in almost any circumstance; when they DO make such promises in circumstances where they can’t make them, I find it weird and off-putting, and it lowers my opinion of their intelligence and/or character. After just a few days of knowing each other, Harvey promises Kate that their relationship will be successful. We’re supposed to see faith and love; what I see is a salesman closing a deal.

11 thoughts on “Les Invasions Barbares; The Grand Budapest Hotel; Last Chance Harvey

  1. Shawna

    Your “wheep wheep” instincts were right on the money. I just finished reading “The Gift of Fear” and Harvey’s behaviour sounds like a textbook example of Traits Shown By Men To Avoid.

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  2. Lawyerish

    I love your descriptions of movies! I haven’t seen the others, but I really liked “The Grand Budapest Hotel” too. I found it hard to follow at times, so I feel like I’d need to watch it again to catch all of the snappy dialogue and plot nuances — his visuals are so captivating that sometimes I get wrapped up in looking at the film instead of also taking in the story and characters.

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  3. Nowheymama

    I just watched The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel the other night, and the whole time I was wishing there was a Swistle review of it. I can’t quite put my thoughts about it into words, so maybe you can!

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    1. Swistle Post author

      Let’s see! I did watch it. I remember I did like it, enough to tell me parents I thought they’d like it. Everything beyond that is a little fuzzy!

      I do remember thinking it was a little too tidy. Like, a guy who is 100% good is married to a woman who is 100% bad, so luckily she leaves him so he can be with the new woman he’s nobly attracted to, who is 100% good and also sort of like a serene goddess of laughter and light! But on the other hand I really liked the good guy and the serene goddess, and I liked them a lot. So. Then how do I explain myself?

      I liked seeing OLDER PEOPLE be most of the main characters in a movie. I felt similarly while watching Red. It made me want MORE OF THAT. And I love so many of those actors, it almost made me tear up to see them! They make older age look appealing.

      I like stories about cheery plucky underdogs who succeed, and there are SEVERAL of them. And I like seeing people go to a place so different than what I’m used to that I’m scared to go myself, but then do just fine there. It gives me some hope!

      It reminded me a bit of a Maeve Binchy novel, and I love Maeve Binchy novels. But I have heard people say Maeve Binchy novels are too sweet and too tidy, and I can see that. I thought the storyline where the woman helps at the phone center seemed weird and really really unlikely.

      So I liked it. I wish I’d written something right after I watched it.

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      1. Nowheymama

        You remembered it very well! It was neat and tidy in several of the plot lines, and yet I wasn’t annoyed, and I wondered why. Yes, like a Maeve Binchy novel!

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  4. Nancy

    I hate that promise thing too. I’ve noticed it most often in Doctor Who. Admittedly the Doctor does often save the day and has greater resources than most for making everything turn out fine, but when he says “I promise everything will be ok” or whatever, I always think “No, you cannot guarantee that”. But maybe that is just what people want/need to hear in an emergency sort of situation, to be reassured that someone is taking charge.

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  5. allison

    Funny – I once rented Last Chance Harvey from itunes but then somehow it disappeared before I could watch it. But what you’re describing is exactly how I felt about Chris Pine in This is War – Reese Witherspoon refuses to go out with him, so he stalks her and embarrasses her at work and basically threatens to keep doing it until she goes out with him. If he wasn’t Chris Pine, he would have been in handcuffs by the end of scene three.

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  6. Sarah

    Ugh. So much “guys being overly aggressive equals guys being SOOOO attracted to you they can’t help themselves” trope that still exists. It’s such a bummer.
    BTW, awesome review as per usual.

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  7. Annelise

    Your final paragraph reminded me of a scene in Team America which made me laugh heartily:

    Lisa: Promise me you’ll never die.
    Gary Johnston: You know I can’t promise that.
    Lisa: Promise me you’ll never die and I’ll make love to you right now.
    Gary Johnston: I promise I’ll never die.

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  8. Marie

    I haven’t seen any of these movies, but I had to comment that having been on the receiving end of the overly aggressive man (a long time ago), I can say it’s not all wine and roses. And having gotten out from under that by get-me-out-of-here will, the “romance” of it tends to end up as “don’t make me get a restraining order.” So having lived it, I probably I would not enjoy Dustin Hoffman acting that way, either. Maybe it’s “romantic” only in the movies. Yet I’d probably enjoy catching up on Doctor Who because it’s less reality-based. (heh)

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